1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

BOMBSHELL VIDEO: Federal Govt Whistleblower Goes Public, About COVID Vaccine

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Revmitchell, Sep 22, 2021.

  1. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    50,245
    Likes Received:
    3,258
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Project Veritas released the first video of its COVID vaccine investigative series today featuring an interview with U.S. Health and Human Services [HHS] insider, Jodi O’Malley, who works as a Registered Nurse at the local Indian Medical Center.

    O’Malley told Project Veritas founder James O’Keefe about what has been going on at her federal government facility. She recorded her HHS colleagues discussing their concerns about the new COVID vaccine to corroborate her assertions:

    Dr. Maria Gonzales, ER Doctor, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: “The problem in here is that they are not doing the studies. People that had [COVID] and the people that have been vaccinated — they’re not doing any antibody testing.”
    Jodi O’Malley, Insider and Registered Nurse, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: “Nope.”
    Dr. Gonzales: “Everybody is quiet with that. Why?”
    O’Malley: “Now, you got this guy in Room Four who got his second dose of the [COVID] vaccine on Tuesday and has been short of breath. Okay? Now his BNP is elevated. D diver elevated, ALT, all his liver enzymes are elevated. His PTPTINR is elevated.”
    Dr. Gonzales: “He’s probably got myocarditis!”
    O’Malley: “Yes!”
    Dr. Gonzales: “All this is xxxxxxxx. Now probably myocarditis due to the vaccine.”

    Malley: “Right.”
    Dr. Gonzales: “But now, they [government] are not going to blame the vaccine.”
    O’Malley: “Well and you know what — but he has an obligation to report that doesn’t he? It happened right — what is it — sixty days after if you see anything?”
    Dr. Gonzales: “They have got to.”
    O’Malley: “But how many are reporting?”
    Dr. Gonzales: “They are not reporting.”
    O’Malley: “Right!”
    Dr. Gonzales: “Because they want to shove it under the mat.”



    BOMBSHELL VIDEO: Federal Govt Whistleblower Goes Public, About COVID Vaccine - The Jewish Voice

     
    • Winner Winner x 2
  2. SGO

    SGO Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2020
    Messages:
    2,833
    Likes Received:
    529
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    No.
    The vaks is safe I tell you.
    The percentage of bad reactions is miniscule compared to all the good ones.
    You are just trying to make political trouble.
    Those are paid actors.

    Disclaimer: The positions I argue may not be my own.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  3. Wingman68

    Wingman68 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2017
    Messages:
    3,041
    Likes Received:
    948
    Faith:
    Baptist
  4. Andre

    Andre Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2005
    Messages:
    2,354
    Likes Received:
    26
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
  5. Squire Robertsson

    Squire Robertsson Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2000
    Messages:
    14,295
    Likes Received:
    2,094
    Faith:
    Baptist
    And who is your source for this information?
     
    • Like Like x 1
  6. Andre

    Andre Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2005
    Messages:
    2,354
    Likes Received:
    26
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Wikipedia, which backs up the claim with numerous citations. Want me to go through them? Trust me, it will not be pretty for Project Veritas.
     
  7. RipponRedeaux

    RipponRedeaux Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2019
    Messages:
    423
    Likes Received:
    43
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Wikipedia is a disreputable outfit. One of its founders has denounced it. It is decidedly Leftist.
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
  8. RipponRedeaux

    RipponRedeaux Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2019
    Messages:
    423
    Likes Received:
    43
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Project Veritas mostly has videos that run continuously with no interruptions. The candid conversations tell the truth. When evil people speak not knowing they are being filmed they do not falsify. You're getting the unadulterated truth --in all its ugliness.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  9. Wingman68

    Wingman68 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2017
    Messages:
    3,041
    Likes Received:
    948
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I have told him this countless times before blocking him. Don’t waste your time. If everyone blocked him there would be a lot less redundancy here.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  10. Andre

    Andre Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2005
    Messages:
    2,354
    Likes Received:
    26
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Evasive - are you challenging me to substantiate the claim in post 4 about Project Veritas with more evidence?

    This is how the people on the two sides of this issue differ:

    - we pro-vaxxers generally substantiate our claims with specific information from reputable sources.

    - the anti-vaxxers very often just slap in a link to a laughably disreputable and, when challenged, make vague tribal asersins such as "Wikipedia is leftist".

    Want to debate facts, and leave the rhetoric to the politicians? Happy to oblige - I will prove with facts that Project Veritas is disreputable. I guarantee you will not be able to do this for wikipedia.
     
  11. Andre

    Andre Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2005
    Messages:
    2,354
    Likes Received:
    26
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    I am more than happy if you guys all block me - I am here to act as a corrective on all the outright lies and misinformation we see here. It is the lurkers that I am speaking to.
     
  12. Andre

    Andre Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2005
    Messages:
    2,354
    Likes Received:
    26
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Indeed, the deceptively edited videos do indeed run without interruption.

    Want me to prove that they deceptively edit their videos?
     
  13. John of Japan

    John of Japan Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2005
    Messages:
    17,638
    Likes Received:
    1,374
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Now, I don't have a horse in this race, and I don't know much about Veritas, but out of curiosity I just looked at the Wikipedia article you source, and footnote 28 which you reference. That footnote turned out to be footnoted itself with 13 references, something that as a professor I would never allow. Anyway, every single one of those 13 references uses "far right" to describe Project Veritas in an adjectival way--"far right Veritas."

    Not a single one of those 13 told why they were labeling Veritas in that way. This is what is called "begging the question" in logic. It is one of several reasons why our college does not allow Wikipedia to be used as a source for research papers, and why genuine scholars don't use it as a source (and I have several genuine scholars as friends--not to mention my son, who has had two scholarly books published and some articles in the theological journals).
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Winner Winner x 1
  14. Andre

    Andre Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2005
    Messages:
    2,354
    Likes Received:
    26
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    I am fully aware of the begging the question issue. And I agree that the devil is in the details - I have more work to do to support my assertion that Project Veritas is a sham organization. But I trust you will agree that this goes both ways - if and when I provide solid evidence that Project Veritas is disreputable, my opponents should not merely issue a summary dismissal of such evidence seasoned with vague claims about how my sources are "leftist". Note that, by contrast, I am making specific, verifiable claims such as that PV doctors their videos.
     
  15. SGO

    SGO Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2020
    Messages:
    2,833
    Likes Received:
    529
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    Another example of calling your brothers liars.

    There has been no correction here, only soiling.
     
  16. Squire Robertsson

    Squire Robertsson Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2000
    Messages:
    14,295
    Likes Received:
    2,094
    Faith:
    Baptist
    From what John wrote above, Wikipedia is marginally better than the source I feared you would cite the SPLC (Southern Poverty Law Center).
     
    • Like Like x 1
  17. John of Japan

    John of Japan Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2005
    Messages:
    17,638
    Likes Received:
    1,374
    Faith:
    Baptist
    The proof then should be evidence that they work on the videos in such a way as to deceive people. Simply editing videos (leaving something out) does not prove doctoring, but only bias.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  18. JonC

    JonC Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2001
    Messages:
    23,646
    Likes Received:
    2,569
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I don't know that they are a sham organization (although they have been caught using unethical and illegal methods). They are, however, a political organization and have edited videos in the past to "catch" political opponents.

    When it comes to covid and the vaccine it is probably better to use an objective source (regardless to one's position on the vaccine).
     
  19. JonC

    JonC Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2001
    Messages:
    23,646
    Likes Received:
    2,569
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Here is an old example of their reliability:
    NPR: O'Keefe 'Inappropriately Edited' Video; Exec's Words Still 'Egregious'

    That does not mean they are misrepresenting the info in this OP. It is, however, something that should be considered when deciding on who to believe. They are a political organization.
     
  20. Wingman68

    Wingman68 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2017
    Messages:
    3,041
    Likes Received:
    948
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Are you saying NPR is to be believed as unbiased?

    I guess you’d rather nobody, except the correct ‘trusted’ agency of the government, do the dangerous investigating to get to the truth. I am waiting for the day when you don’t take up for the left in every one of your actions. Of course your words always attempt to mollify with talk of supporting something other than that. Actions speak louder than words.
     
    • Like Like x 2
Loading...