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"bring forth fruits meet for repentance"

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Dr. Walter, Jul 28, 2010.

  1. Dr. Walter

    Dr. Walter New Member

    Apr 28, 2010
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    Mt. 3:7 ¶ But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
    8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

    Jesus makes it clear that He preached the same gospel as John the Baptist (Mk. 1:14-15; Jn. 3:16; 36). In addition, Jesus made it clear that no man born of women was greater than John the Baptist.

    If true Gospel repentance toward God and faith in Jesus Christ are coupled with regeneration IN the administration of baptism as adisciplelearner claims, then would not John be demanding the impossible of these apparently lost persons? They are lost persons and therefore needed to be saved.

    Notice he does not merely demand repentance, but rather bring forth "FRUITS" meet as proof repentance. This proves that genuine gospel repentance can not only occur prior to baptism but so can "fruits" or evidence of true repentance can be manifested BEFORE and therefore WITHOUT baptism.

    Therefore any interpretation of the gospel and baptism by Jesus that denies that true gospel repentance as well as its "fruits" occur before and thus without baptism is misinterpreting both John and Jesus.

    Finally, true repentance has to do with an INWARD change of mind about sin manifested in faith in Christ for salvation from sin. John preached Christ (Jn. 3:36) and these men were still in unbelief in the gospel of John. Hence, when John required "fruits" meet for repentance, he was not merely demanding evidence of an INWARD CHANGE toward sin but toward Christ which he preached or evidence of true gospel repentance and faith in Christ BEFORE he would baptize them.

    This is the same order Jesus gives in Mark 16:15-16.

    This is the same order Peter gives in Acts 2:38

    This is the same order observed in the conversion in Acts 2:41

    This is the same order Philip demands in Acts 8:36-37

    This is the same order commanded in the commission - Mk. 16:15-16; Mt. 28:19-20

    adisciplelearner has yet to produce ONE TEXT or ONE EXAMPLE where gospel repentance and faith did not occur BEFORE baptism.