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Discussion in 'Baptist Colleges & Seminaries' started by Dr. Bob, Oct 20, 2020.

  1. Dr. Bob

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    With the demise of fundamentalist W.B. Riley's Northwestern Seminary and Colleges in the early 1950's, the Baptists of Minnesota founded Pillsbury Baptist Bible College in Owatonna in 1957. In a decade it had grown to over 700 students on a lovely campus.

    Infighting and practical disagreement in 1968 led to a number of faculty, the President, and 100+ students leaving Pillsbury and founding Maranatha Baptist University in Watertown, Wisconsin. MBU has grown into a large campus, seminary, etc and still standing strong for the fundamental Baptist distinctives and training pastors, educators and some 40 major fields of study.

    Pillsbury struggled over the years with identity, distinctives and decreasing enrollment. In 2008 it closed its doors. With the "bad blood" at the splintering four decades in history, Maranatha showed true brotherly love and took all of the records/transcripts from Pillsbury College and maintains them for that school's alumni. I just received a notice from Maranatha that it is hosting an alumni banquet for Pillsbury College alumni. Seldom see such selfless brotherly love among northern hard-nosed Baptists!!

    Pillsbury Graduates - Maranatha Baptist University
     
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    Caveat. I attended Pillsbury Baptist Bible College 1965-68 and was one of the upper classmen who left to participate in the founding of Maranatha Baptist University (from which I received my B.A. and the first of the school's M.A. degrees)

    I returned to serve as a professor of practical theology at Pillsbury 1996-2000 in hopes of helping the school regain its footing. Those were precious years and I developed strong bonds with the school, Board, etc and wept when then school later closed.
     
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    I think a cousin of mine may have graduated from Pillsbury around that time. Another went there, but transferred to Faith Baptist in Iowa (I think) when Pillsbury went under.
     
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    I was elated when I saw this back when it happened. I know wonderful people from both colleges, and I loved Pillsbury, though I chose MBBC, now MBU. I'm so thankful that MBU has continued to show love towards their now-defunct brethren. What a great example of Christ's love they have been. I'll never regret having been a part of MBU back in the day. If I could go back at my age and finish, I would. I don't think it would be quite the same as it's a much larger campus now, but I'm sure that I would probably still experience the working of the Holy Spirit in my life as I did back in the 80s.
     
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    I love their cinnamon rolls!
     
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    I Love their cinnamon rolls as well, Brother. ;) I was sorry, in a way, to see Pillsbury go down the tubes the way they did. Wish they would have recovered some sense of Biblical urgency and a will to keep themselves in order and up to date on bills. But, with declining enrollment, it just wasn't possible. I believe Dr. Cedarholm made the right decision when he started Maranatha! It truly has been "To the praise of His glory!" What a MIRACLE SCHOOL, it truly has been!
     
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    From Maranatha website:
    Being dispensational would eliminate Maranatha as an option for me.

    The acceptance of universal atonement and rejection of limited atonement also removes Maranatha from being an option.

    Universal atonement is simply an unbiblical and contradictory theory that is not compatible with the Sovereignty of God. Clearly Maranatha is from a General Baptist, Arminian heritage. As one who follows a Particular Baptist, Calvinist heritage, I would never encourage or endorse this university.

    Why? Because at its core...it is man-centered and it attempts to bring God down from His full authority over all things.

    It ultimately draws its origins from the pietists of the Enlightenment as its philosophical base.
     
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    As with all who hold the position you say you hold, as well as the dispensational, Armenianist position, this is not a place to try to down the reputation of this college. Having attended there, I know for a fact that your OPINION is yours, and you're welcomed to it. I wouldn't try to take it from you. But, I don't believe anyone asked for your recommendation or condemnation of the University. No disrespect intended. I know many from BOTH positions that came from this school. They seem to live in peace, but you seem to be intentionally trying to be divisive. This will be my last reply to you on this thread. Have a nice day.
     
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    No, its heritage is Northern Regular (like the Regular in GARBC) Baptist. It pretty well lines up with the New Hampshire Confession. It also traces its thought to the Andrew Fuller branch of Particular Baptists.
     
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    Go back farther to the Reformation around 1561. It is there where you find the Arminian/Calvinist split with Baptists. Two groups, General Baptists (holding to general redemption) and Particular Baptists (holding to particular redemption). All other denominations split off from those two main branches.
     
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    I know about the 17th Century split among English Baptists. However, it seems to me you have read about Andrew Fuller or Francis Wayland. Neither of whom were General Baptists.
    Please see Post 4 on A thread in Baptist Theology and Bible Study Forum. Or Fuller v. Gill
     
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    I'm not sure what post 12 by @AustinC means. However, I've never denied the existence of the General Baptists. Though, as I understand the situation. The GBs are represented in 2021 by the Free Will Baptists.
     
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    In the United States, "Regular" Baptist is almost always a clue of an historical connection to and ancestry from the Particular Baptists. A particular Regular Baptist group may no longer hold all the views of their ancestors, but that does not make their heritage General Baptist. Albert W. Wardin's Baptist Atlas and The Twelve Baptist Tribes in the USA are excellent resources to help understand the types of Baptists we have (and are) in the United States.
     
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