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Bush is to blame for all the problems

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by church mouse guy, Sep 2, 2005.

  1. church mouse guy

    church mouse guy Well-Known Member
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    Those of you who think that Bush is personally to blame for all of the problems, here is a forum for you to explain why you blame Bush.
     
  2. El_Guero

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    CMG,

    Are you trying to encourage trouble ...

    Or are you saying that this is no longer an ACT OF GOD, but now it is an act of Pres. Bush?
    I wonder how the insurance companies will write that into their policies.

    El Guero
     
  3. church mouse guy

    church mouse guy Well-Known Member
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    No, El Guero, I am not seeking trouble, but politics has come into play here so I think that the Democrats should have a place to state their views. Actually, Bush started to be blamed a few hours after the storm ended. The Red Cross and The Salvation Army and other groups like them started in right away as soon as road were cleared.
     
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    So what are you asking?

    Are you asking if Bush is responsible for the hurricane?

    Is Bush responsible for the levees bursting?

    Is Bush responsible for the late and inadequate response of FEMA?

    Is Bush responsible for the late and inadequate response of state and local authorities?

    Is Bush responsible for the civil unrest?

    Please clarify what you are asking.
     
  5. church mouse guy

    church mouse guy Well-Known Member
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    Here in Indianapolis the criticism of Bush was published a couple of days ago.

    Bush was held responsible for the hurricane by the Democrat Robert Kennedy Jr. because the hurricane was caused by global warming according to Kennedy.

    It was long known that the levees were not adequate for high-level storms.

    FEMA had to answer directly to Bush so Bush would be responsible there to, wouldn't he?
     
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  7. LorrieGrace

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    Why is it that it is ALWAYS the governments responsiblity to bail people out of trouble??? I have never understood that point of view!
     
  8. Magnetic Poles

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    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
     
  9. church mouse guy

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    Here is what Robert Kennedy said on Monday as to how Bush caused the hurricane:

    As Hurricane Katrina dismantles Mississippi’s Gulf Coast, it’s worth recalling the central role that Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour played in derailing the Kyoto Protocol and kiboshing President Bush’s iron-clad campaign promise to regulate CO2.

    In March of 2001, just two days after EPA Administrator Christie Todd Whitman’s strong statement affirming Bush’s CO2 promise former RNC Chief Barbour responded with an urgent memo to the White House.

    Barbour, who had served as RNC Chair and Bush campaign strategist, was now representing the president’s major donors from the fossil fuel industry who had enlisted him to map a Bush energy policy that would be friendly to their interests. His credentials ensured the new administration’s attention.

    The document, titled “Bush-Cheney Energy Policy & CO2,” was addressed to Vice President Cheney, whose energy task force was then gearing up, and to several high-ranking officials with strong connections to energy and automotive concerns keenly interested in the carbon dioxide issue, including Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham, Interior Secretary Gale Norton, Commerce Secretary Don Evans, White House chief of staff Andy Card and legislative liaison Nick Calio. Barbour pointedly omitted the names of Whitman and Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill, both of whom were on record supporting CO2 caps. Barbour’s memo chided these administration insiders for trying to address global warming which Barbour dismissed as a radical fringe issue.

    “A moment of truth is arriving,” Barbour wrote, “in the form of a decision whether this Administration’s policy will be to regulate and/or tax CO2 as a pollutant. The question is whether environmental policy still prevails over energy policy with Bush-Cheney, as it did with Clinton-Gore.” He derided the idea of regulating CO2 as “eco-extremism,” and chided them for allowing environmental concerns to “trump good energy policy, which the country has lacked for eight years.”

    The memo had impact. “It was terse and highly effective, written for people without much time by a person who controls the purse strings for the Republican Party,” said John Walke, a high-ranking air quality official in the Clinton administration.

    On March 13, Bush reversed his previous position, announcing he would not back a CO2 restriction using the language and rationale provided by Barbour. Echoing Barbour’s memo, Bush said he opposed mandatory CO2 caps, due to “the incomplete state of scientific knowledge” about global climate change.

    Well, the science is clear. This month, a study published in the journal Nature by a renowned MIT climatologist linked the increasing prevalence of destructive hurricanes to human-induced global warming.

    Now we are all learning what it’s like to reap the whirlwind of fossil fuel dependence which Barbour and his cronies have encouraged. Our destructive addiction has given us a catastrophic war in the Middle East and--now--Katrina is giving our nation a glimpse of the climate chaos we are bequeathing our children.

    In 1998, Republican icon Pat Robertson warned that hurricanes were likely to hit communities that offended God. Perhaps it was Barbour’s memo that caused Katrina, at the last moment, to spare New Orleans and save its worst flailings for the Mississippi coast.
     
  10. LorrieGrace

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    MP, Well, my gereral welfare would be a lot better if I had a pool in my backyard. I think I will write the government with my order.
     
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    I'm wondering what would happen in these natural disasters if those who tell lies and falsly accuse President Bush were in control?????
    Since they have the mind to lie, manipulate, & destroy I'm sure I couldn't trust them to be in charge of ANYTHING!!!!
     
  12. Magnetic Poles

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    General welfare is just that...general...a macro level.
     
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    I blame the entire governmental structure that has known for decades that such a disaster could occur in New Orleans.

    I blame the entire governmental structure for allowing the building of casinos and neighborhoods on the Gulf coast in the same area where Hurricane Camille came through just 36 years ago.
     
  14. LorrieGrace

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    MP, You have NO sense of humor.
     
  15. LorrieGrace

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    I think that I will just stay out of this debate. I do not blame Bush for this, nor do I blame the government for everything that happens in life. This WAS a hurricane. A force of nature. Katrina was neither a democrat or republican.

    Instead of wasting time blaming this on someone, be in prayer. It is a much better use of energy. Just my opinion. Adios!
     
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    No one is blaming Bush for the hurricane.
     
  17. church mouse guy

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    Yes, Robert Kennedy Jr. says that Bush's failure to act on global warming caused the hurricane. Kennedy said on Monday, "...Well, the science is clear. This month, a study published in the journal Nature by a renowned MIT climatologist linked the increasing prevalence of destructive hurricanes to human-induced global warming...."
     
  18. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Well, consider the source in that case.
     
  19. church mouse guy

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    The Kennedy in question is the nephew of Teddy Kennedy, US Senator and brother of the President. Teddy's other brother was Attorney General of the United States. If global warming does cause hurricanes, then Bush is responsible.
     
  20. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    I know who Robert Kennedy is. IF global warming causes hurricanes, how is Bush responsible. Global warming didn't start till 2001?
     
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