California's 'Green Jobs' Experiment Isn't Going Well

[Bro. Curtis]

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The green lobby has lectured us for years that global warming is all about the sanctity of science. Those who question the "scientific consensus" on catastrophic atmospheric changes are belittled as "deniers." Now, in assessing the costs, the greens readily cook the books and throw good science out the window. "To most of the most strident supporters of this legislation," says Mr. Niello, "the economic costs don't really matter anyway, because we are supposedly facing an environmental apocalypse."
Mr. Schwarzenegger fits into that camp. He recently declared: "I recommend very strongly that we move forward . . . . You will always have people saying this will lose jobs."
Meanwhile, the state is losing jobs, a lot of them. California's unemployment rate hit 9.3% in December, up from 4.9% in December 2006. There are now 1.5 million Californians out of work. The state has the fourth-highest housing foreclosure rate in the nation, has lost more businesses than any state in recent years, and is facing a $40 billion deficit. With cap and trade firmly in place, the economic situation is only likely to get worse....


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123336500319935517.html

 

[windcatcher]

California is one funny state: I'm not saying that enforcing pollution laws is wrong...... but take a state....any state.... and add on special emission laws which can only be enforce in-state. It may help a little.....but at what expense to the people of that state when all surrounding states share the same atmosphere. I've heard that the pollutants in China's industrial air eventually work across the pacific ocean and fall upon the West Coast. That may be so although I would think the rotation of the earth would incline the air to move westerly.... in which case.... California cleans up the air that moves to the Pacific, while the other states send their pollutants to California.

You reckon?

 

[Magnetic Poles]

California is one funny state: I'm not saying that enforcing pollution laws is wrong...... but take a state....any state.... and add on special emission laws which can only be enforce in-state. It may help a little.....but at what expense to the people of that state when all surrounding states share the same atmosphere. I've heard that the pollutants in China's industrial air eventually work across the pacific ocean and fall upon the West Coast. That may be so although I would think the rotation of the earth would incline the air to move westerly.... in which case.... California cleans up the air that moves to the Pacific, while the other states send their pollutants to California.

You reckon?

Nope. Prevailing currents tend to move weather systems from west to east and north to south across North America. Watch the weather reports on any TV station and you'll see this. Also, the earth doesn't rotate under the atmosphere, but rather the atmosphere is part of the earth.

 

[LeBuick]

California is one funny state: I'm not saying that enforcing pollution laws is wrong...... but take a state....any state.... and add on special emission laws which can only be enforce in-state. It may help a little.....but at what expense to the people of that state when all surrounding states share the same atmosphere. I've heard that the pollutants in China's industrial air eventually work across the pacific ocean and fall upon the West Coast. That may be so although I would think the rotation of the earth would incline the air to move westerly.... in which case.... California cleans up the air that moves to the Pacific, while the other states send their pollutants to California.

You reckon?

I take it you've never been to LA to see the brown cloud. Even with the tougher emissions standards it's still there. They also have higher rates of people dying of breathing disorders. Putting all politics aside, those pollution laws were necessary in my birth place of LA.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

But it would be ridiculous to force Montana to comply to California's standards.

 

[LeBuick]

But it would be ridiculous to force Montana to comply to California's standards.

I agree 100%... :thumbs: