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Calvinism vs Arminianism? Why either/or? Why not both?

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by delizzle, Feb 2, 2018.

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  1. TCassidy

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    That is a lie. I have never said any such thing. Time to apologize.
     
  2. delizzle

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    First, does someone claiming that they are right because they claim to "use the bible" make them right? Yes or no
     
  3. thatbrian

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    Very edifying and emotionally mature debate going on here. . .
     
  4. delizzle

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    I know you are but what am I? Lol. Just joking. But yeah. Straw men and insults is kinda immature. From someone claiming to be a pastor no less!
     
  5. Squire Robertsson

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    Six Hour Warning
    This thread will be closed sometime after 2:30 AM Pacific.
     
  6. delizzle

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    Thank you.
     
  7. TCassidy

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    Stop trying to dodge the issue. You claimed
    Either post a quote from me making such a claim or admit you lied and apologize.
     
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    Brothers... may I ask you to let this settle and put it to rest.

    Blessings,

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  9. TCassidy

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    I will be glad to. As soon as he admits he lied.
     
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  11. TCassidy

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    Still ducking and dodging the FACT you claimed I said something I didn't say.
     
  12. delizzle

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    Did you delete my last post?
     
  13. delizzle

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    Stop it! You're killing your straw man! strawman-e1303770715257-1.jpg
     
  14. InTheLight

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    Somebody deleted two of your posts. I saw them an hour ago. They were posted right after you thanked Squire Robertson for alerting us that the thread would be closed in 6 hours. Your first post started out, "Since this thread is going to be closed soon, I'd like to say..."
     
  15. delizzle

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    Yep...no doubt the work of TCassidy. A stellar way for a "retired pastor" to be above reproach.
     
  16. delizzle

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    TCassidy, in all seriousness. As one brother to another, remove "retired pastor" from your profile.
     
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    I made the following statements in this thread......
    This may not have been worded exactly as TCassidy would have it worded, but this is essentially what "particular redemptionists" aka "Calvinists" teach. And my second statement was this.......

    This is absolutely true as well. According to "Arminianism" a believer CAN lose their salvation. So why is the above not a "correct" description?
    • Eternal security is also conditional: All believers have full assurance of salvation with the condition that they remain in Christ. Salvation is conditioned on faith, therefore perseverance is also conditioned.[25] Apostasy (turning from Christ) is only committed through a deliberate, willful rejection of Jesus and renunciation of saving faith. Such apostasy is irremediable.[26] Arminianism - Wikipedia

    So when TCassidy makes the above statements and I tell him that he is being dishonest(with a little emoticon as he often does) my post gets deleted for making a "provocative statement" . Why can TCassidy make rude and unkind posts and accuse people of "lying" but no one can do the same in return?
     
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    This thread is closed.
     
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