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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by steaver, Jan 9, 2019.

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  1. The Biblicist

    The Biblicist Well-Known Member
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    Just to keep it fresh before you and the rest here is part of the evidence once again:

    Paul believes that Adam's sin is the cause of both death and sin entering into this world (Rom. 5:12) and why death is "passed" upon all other mankind.

    Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

    You have to read this to mean by many mens sins many men were condemned to death whereas Paul says the very reverse that it is by one man's singular sin many men be dead, condemned and judged.

    Paul believes that by "one man" and his "one" act that death, judgement and condemnation came upon all other mankind.

    For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
    16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
    17 For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
    Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
    19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
     
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  2. JonC

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    That is why I suggest another thread.

    The evidence proves my position. You've offered Paul's words but your belief.
     
  3. The Biblicist

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    We will see.
     
  4. JonC

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    I completely agree with the quoted part above.
     
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    Where should the thread go..."Baptist theology" or a more broad forum?

    I will let you start it, and we can close this one as we are too far in the game for a meaningful discussion.
     
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    Thread is closed.

    Please feel free to continue the original discussion or an off-shoot discussion on a new thread.
     
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