Calvin's Coffee Clutch discusses Sola Scriptura

If that's the case, then why a jewess? Why not a gentiless? You do believe that Adam and Eve were the first of the Human species do you not?

It had to be a jewess because the Jews are God's chosen race! Jesus is God the Son, therefore Jesus was born a jew, His people to save! But! He came to his own and His own received him not! So who are His people? The Jews remain "the people of God". However, Atonement was not made for the Jews, it was made for SIN! The invitation to believe and have everlasting life was extended by God to ALL of mankind, the Whosoever's of the world. The penalty for sin was Paid by God the Son, so there is no reason why Any and All whosoever's that do believe cannot have everlasting life.

The Jews remain "the elect of God". Virtually everyone whom God uses for his purposes, is an elect of God.

 

Then you violate the common Calvinist definition of "The Elect" because You include All of God's creation in your definition of The Elect. He elected to create them in the first place, therefore they are ALL known to Him from before the foundation of the world. That is the Calvinist definition of "The elect" is it not?

 

Have fun OSAS !

Wish I could help, just enough time to say hi to everyone going on a vaca to study for awhile ! Be back in a week. Keep up the fight ! (In love you sinners !) ha ha...

 

You have just invalidated the words of Jesus, the words of Paul, over half the new testament, and You have negated the Salvation Hopes of virtually every Living person who has faith in God! Congratulations on your ignorance of all the whosoever's, and all of those whom God said "that none should perish but all should have everlasting life". You have also negated the Christ's atonement for the sins of the world.

And you call yourself Christian?

 

Hi OSAS;

No kidding and man can't do a thing to change God's mind Hmmmmmmmmm. We are still clay in the potters hand.

Jer 18:4 And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.
Jer 18:5 Then the word of the LORD came to me, saying,
Jer 18:6 O house of Israel, cannot I do with you as this potter? saith the LORD. Behold, as the clay is in the potter's hand, so are ye in mine hand, O house of Israel.
Jer 18:7 At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it;
Jer 18:8 If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.
Jer 18:9 And at what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it;
Jer 18:10 If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them.
Jer 18:11 Now therefore go to, speak to the men of Judah, and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, saying, Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I frame evil against you, and devise a device against you: return ye now every one from his evil way, and make your ways and your doings good.

Maybe you'd like to explain why God pleaded with the Jews to turn them selves from evil and live.

Eze 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

I mean why would he do that if men weren't capable of turning to God on there own.
Timothy said;
1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior;
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1Ti 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
John quoted Jesus saying;
Joh 12:30 Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes.
Joh 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
Paul said all Gentiles are chosen to have Salvation
Rom 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

If Salvation is come to all Gentiles who would be left for election the Jews were already elected.
Calvinism is a false doctrine all you need is to believe in God's Word...
May Christ Shine His Light On Us All;
Mike

 

Arminianism is a false doctrine, all you need to do is "understand" God's word.

 

Calvinism is a false doctrine, all you need to do is "understand" God's word!

 

oohhh..... good one wes.... couldn't think of something original?

And again, nowhere has Calvinism been condemned as heresy. Unlike what you believe.

 

Thanks for the complement, but really it applies to the one who prompted my very astute comment.

 

Find that Council yet? I've got four against Arminianism...