Featured Can We Completely Trust Any Bible Translation?

This thread is mainly in response to comments made elsewhere, by another member, @Silverhair, who has questioned my knowledge, as others have done, on the original languages, and my assertion, that no Bible Versions is without it faults, and therefore are not completely reliable in every place.

There are three places in the Gospel of John, where the English Versions do not represent what the Greek text actually says. These examples show the limitations and carelessness of human-made translations.

John 8:51, “Truly, truly, I say to you, if anyone keeps my word, he will never see death.”

John 10:28, “I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand”

John 11:26, “and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”

In each case, the greater majority on translations, do not translate the Greek completely, they leave out, “εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα”.

Literally it reads;

8:51, “no, not ever, he shall perish to the age (eternally)”

10:28, “no, not ever, shall they perish to the age (eternally)”

11:26, “no, not ever, shall perish to the age (eternally)”

The readings in the Greek are very emphatic, that those who are born-again believers in the Lord Jesus Christ, will never, no never, perish for all eternity. In each verse, there is also the emphatic double negative, “οὐ μὴ”, “shall certainly not”, “no, not ever”. This is also not fully translated in the majority on translations.

Why would any translation, that claims to be faithful to the original languages, not translate what the Lord Himself has give us in the Original Gospel of John? In each case Jesus Christ is the Speaker, and His Authority is the Highest. There is no reason that can be given, for any translation altering, or adding, or removing what we are given by the Lord.

The Bible warns that we are not to “add or take away” (Revelation 22:18-19) from what the Lord has given us in the Original Autographs.

 

it does help to know the original languages, when trying to witness to a Jehovah's Witness, and show them why John 1:1 cannot read "and the Word was a god". Just to point them to a Bible version that reads "God", can be seen as a biased translation.

Regrads Van, you might not be aware, that he has been on here many times, with his "Greek" renderings, which are way off what it actually means. Again, without an actual working knowledge of the original languages, one would not know.

I am never "rude", though am blunt and to the point. A spade is a spade to me!

 

Have you managed to show them why "a god" is wrong?

 

yet another stupid comment!

 

here is one for the likes of you!

Can We Completely Trust Any Bible Translation?

 

"appearing" to others is the least of my concerns on these forums. I am also on other forums, where there are many who are anti Bible, anti Trinity, atheist, humanist, etc, etc, and you have to know what you are really talking about, as some folks are proper scholars in Hebrew and Greek, etc

I have seen posts from Van, not only on Greek, but also theology, and he is way of on what he says. then you get some guy called Silverhair, who jumps in and says that I sould apoligise for saying what is true! and when I produce evidence, I get no response

I have no problem in being criticised, as I can take it. My writings speak for themselves, and always open to being corrected, rather than someone making silly comments.

 

yet another stupid accusation, that I "add and take away" from the Bible! put up or shut up

Mods, before you delete comments, why not tell us first why you are doing so?

 

More rubbish

 

It is your own attitude that needs to be changed when you call me who you don't even know, insecure!

You guys keep on quoting Greek on here without even knowing what you are on about, and when corrected take offence