Can we discuss Kenosis?

Give me a list of the devine atributes listed in the bible.

 

Here's a bone for you, now do your research and come back:

http://kenosis.info/early_fathers.shtml

 

Here's a Baptist Confession for you:

http://1689commentary.org/2011/05/0...ter-8-of-christ-the-mediator-section-2-of-10/

 

Guys, I don't think it necessary to incite with anger, or attack with vengeance this person, when clearly he does affirm that Jesus is God. He just appears to have overstated his case in regard to what form God has made himself manifest in Christ. At least that is my hope and thus my desire to address so as to correct the erring brother rather than cast him aside.

Goinheix, please consider the words of respected scholar Adam Clarke on this subject:

Do you understand what he is saying? He is agreeing that Jesus did not manifest his divine glory, for his purpose of being crucified would not have been accomplished had he done so. He veiled his divine attributes (most of the time), but this veiling shouldn't be understood as "not possessing." Please tell me you agree.raying:

 

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Do your own research. You're the one with the questions.

 

Goinheix no offense but your English is so poor in construction I cannot tell exactly what you are suggesting. Sometimes it sounds like you are on track and other times it sounds like you are a heretic. None the less it is true that Jesus Christ while here on earth laid aside either in part or the whole His God characteristics to become a man yet he remained no less God.

 

Sigh... I guess I will have to ...


You asked for a Baptist Confession supporting the divine attributes, here it is:

The 1689 Confession states: being conceived by the Holy Spirit in the womb of the Virgin Mary, the Holy Spirit coming down upon her: and the power of the Most High overshadowing her;

• Baptist Catechism
• Q25: How did Christ, being the Son of God, become man?
  A25: Christ, the Son of God, became man, by taking to himself a true body, and a reasonable soul, being conceived by the power of the Holy Ghost, in the womb of the Virgin Mary, and born of her yet without sin.

Mary became pregnant or conceived Jesus by the Holy Spirit; this was in her womb; she was a virgin. These are all very important elements to Christ having a human nature. This incarnation was not a mystical, spiritual, or non-material pregnancy; it was physical and Jesus developed as any other human would in his mother’s womb. But there was a difference was that Mary conceived by the Holy Spirit’s power which overshadowed her; the fallen nature of Adam was not passed onto Jesus as it would have through the seed of a fallen man. Obviously, I am not exactly saying that sin, in a purely physically way, passes through the seed of a man into the egg of a woman, and that only in this physical way is sin passed to each human. The imputation of sin to all of Mankind by Adam’s first transgression is a spiritual matter. It is the judgment upon all mankind since Adam sinned as our federal head.
I can’t pretend to have this all worked out, but we cannot forget that Jesus was sinless (and is still sinless) because he was very God of very God. Certainly the virgin birth, by the power of the Spirit, assures us that the Second Adam did not inherit Adam’s sin, and that as one who is not born by ordinary generation he did not inherit Adam’s sin, but was born in holiness. This Second Adam would be tempted by the serpent as was the first, but the Second Adam would not succumb; he would triumph over the devil, thus crushing the serpent under his feet.
The 1689 Confession states: and so was made of a woman of the tribe of Judah, of the seed of Abraham and David according to the Scriptures;
Jesus was born of a the virgin Mary, but there was a context for the birth of this promised One in history (the fullness of times). He was born, according to the Scripture’s predictions, to the tribe of Judah, from the lineage of Abraham and David as was promised.
This is all so historical, so human, and yet so supernatural all at the same time. God used ordinary providence, but he also worked freely outside of ordinary providence by the virgin birth of Jesus. Truly prophecy is a supernatural in its revelation, and add to this the supernatural fulfillment, but in all this supernatural there seems to be a natural or ordinary providence aspect.
Here we come to a finalizing of section two. The first movement, as it were, declared the deity of Christ, the second movement declared the humanity of Christ, and now the defining, fencing, and distinctions that need to be made in relation to the ”two natures in one person” are stated.
The 1689 Confession states: so that two whole, perfect, and distinct natures were inseparably joined together in one person,
This portion reiterates the fullness each of the two natures. Jesus is very God, eternal God, and fully God. Jesus us fully human, being born of a woman from her womb, and born of a woman under the law. These two natures are whole; they are not partial or lacking in any respect. But while they are whole, they are also distinct. They are separate natures. But while they are whole and distinct, they are also joined inseparably to one person. It would do us well to make sure we grasp these three aspects before moving on from here.

• 1. Two whole and perfect natures.
• 2. The two natures are distinct
• 3. The two natures are inseparably joined to one person

 

He appears to be from Uruguay, so he must be ESL.

 

Then you need to go back and study more because we're not buying what you are teaching. I do hope that you are not a pastor because you are teaching heresy.

 

What verse is that please?