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Featured Can We Trust The Holy Bible Today? Part 1

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by SavedByGrace, Dec 30, 2020.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    Your viewpoint on biblical inspiration seems to be flawed!
    Both in regards to the Originals and to Translations themselves
     
    #21 Yeshua1, Dec 30, 2020
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    there is no other possibility, than saying that some parts of the Holy Bible in the Originals, were not Inspired by the Holy Spirit
     
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    anyone who doubts this passage in the long reading, as found in the KJV, should spend some time reading the masterful work on this, but one of the best textual scholars, John Burgon. He wrote about 100 years abo defending this, and I am yet to see anyone prove him wrong! http://www.gutenberg.org/files/26134/26134-pdf.pdf
     
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    We can agree to disagree
     
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    yes, the Holy Spirit ensured the missing words were put back into their rightful place. It is called preserving the text. If you still have doubts about this as in the KJV, maybe you can tell why is it, that when the words are removed, the Greek grammar is faulty? There is no way that the Holy Spirit could have Inspired error!
     
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    Think Jon C was saying that he views inspiration as more dynamic, as in God communicated by thoughts, so that while the actual wording is not important, what counts is the basic doctrines expressed in the Originals?
     
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    what about the important verse in Psalm 22:16?
     
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    It was not a perfect translation, one of the best of its time, but not the all time gold standard!
     
    #28 Yeshua1, Dec 30, 2020
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    as Jesus says, "every single jot and tittle", which I believe to be the extent of the Inspiration of the 66 Books
     
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    I agree with you, as Verbal inspiration would JUST refer to the originals themselves, but Jon C seems to be stating fallows over to translation also!
     
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    Dictation! The Holy Spirit told the writers, and they wrote. There can be no other way. The Holy Bible in the Original Autographs, is NOT part Word of God, and part, word of man. It IS 100% WORD OF GOD!
     
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    Jon C is very much mistaken, like many others. They try to advocate the impossible!
     
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    He allowed each writer to put down want he chose, but so moved on and in them to use their vocabulary to be perfect when recorded down!
     
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    so what they wrote was not "The Word of God", but "the word of man", guided/blessed by the Holy Spirit?
     
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    He used men to write the words down, but made sure that every word was as He had chosen them to be, was not robotic dictation, as Isaiah and Paul and John allowed to use their own vocabulary and ways to express the truth...
     
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    I believe that it is like, when a boss dictates a letter to his secretary, exactly what he tells her, she writes down. Very simple. The writers of the Books of the Holy Bible, were only "instruments" whom God used for His Infallible, Inerrant Word.
     
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    yes, but they were allowed to express it down based upon their own personalities and Grammar, as Luke wrote like Classical Greek, but peter not so much!
     
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    This is how I see Biblical Inspiration. The Holy Bible in its 66 Books, in the Original Autographs, IS The Word of Almighty God. The extent of which is, as God Himself wrote The Ten Commandments on the Tablets, in this way He has used humans to write His Words for all the human race. It is as though God the Holy Spirit held the hands of the writers, as they wrote HIS Words.
     
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    The finished work was God breathed, just that He still allowed the Authors to use own styles and personalities and vocabluary
     
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    what makes you think that Luke wrote in Classical Greek?
     
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