Can you be saved and not know it?

[Salamander]

So, are you British?

inherently, yes.

I KNOW, but I don't believe, so how would you know what you said. Are you sure you Know, being you don't believe you know?

No wonder you remain in a confused state, you don't believe what you say you know.

i know what i said and know i am saved.

I have faith, you bypass it or at least you think you do but do you know whether you do or is that what you believe, or don't you believe you know you have faith.

Never have bypassed faith. You would like to believe you think , or at least you think you believe but you then say you know something but have never believed it.

I have the measure of faith given to every man. it was through Divine revelation because of the Creation. i was able to excercise that faith into a belief. i then heard preaching which allowed me to believe unto righteousness. i then made confession unto salvation. Once i was saved, the Holy Ghost took up abode in my heart. i knew it when it happened. i know it now.

If you don't believe what you say you know, i feel real sorry for you, God loves you.

Now, do you know I Peter 1:5 is true or do you only believe it to be true?

 

[Salamander]

And whose faith is it that keeps you? If you even believe you are kept.

 

[Brother Bob]

I have the measure of faith given to every man. it was through Divine revelation because of the Creation. i was able to excercise that faith into a belief. i then heard preaching which allowed me to believe unto righteousness. i then made confession unto salvation. Once i was saved, the Holy Ghost took up abode in my heart. i knew it when it happened. i know it now.

That was dealt to every man. I think I see the problem now. I have the faith once delivered unto the saints. The faith which has added, virture, knowledge, temperance, patience, Godliness, brotherly kindness and Charity.
You need to work on your faith some.

When you get to Heaven and see it face to face, you will not need faith anymore. Apparently you don't need it now.

 

[Salamander]

That was dealt to every man. I think I see the problem now. I have the faith once delivered unto the saints. The faith which has added, virture, knowledge, temperance, patience, Godliness, brotherly kindness and Charity.
You need to work on your faith some.

When you get to Heaven and see it face to face, you will not need faith anymore. Apparently you don't need it now.

To have the faith once delivered unto the saints you first must know you're saved just as they knew they were saved to have that faith.

And yes, you fit the definition of an extreme radical member of the primitive baptists who aren't sure they are saved and think we all have to wait and see if God has made up His mind when He separates the sheep from the goats. which, btw, is speaking of sheep nations and goat nations.

My faith which has moved to more faith because He is Faithful will one day be sight, until then, i know i am saved and that will happen for me.

Now go back to your dodging my questions.

 

[Salamander]

And whose faith is it you claim? And whose faith is it that was once delivered to the saints. And whose faith is it that keeps you? Are you kept?

 

[Salamander]

Dodge, dodge,dodge.

 

[Brother Bob]

My faith which has moved to more faith because He is Faithful will one day be sight, until then, i know i am saved and that will happen for me.

You have no idea what you are saying. You say you have faith and then you say you "know" but you don't believe it. So, then you turn right around and remove the faith.

 

[Salamander]

You have no idea what you are saying. You say you have faith and then you say you "know" but you don't believe it. So, then you turn right around and remove the faith.

I am acting on the behalf of His being faithful, just as i know when the Lord saved me and He is faithful/trustworthy. You must not be trusting the same God I am.

 

[Brother Bob]

If you don't believe you don't have nothing. You don't have faith or knowledge if you do not believe.

 

[Salamander]

Explain Im Peter 1:5, or can you?

 

[Brother Bob]

Explain I Peter 1:5, or can you?

I did explain it but must of went right over your head.

"through faith". You must believe of which you say you do not. You are not kept by anyone if you do not believe.

 

[Salamander]

So you believe you are kept by your own faith and don't even know it?

 

[Salamander]

and if you think that is the right interpretation, then please don't be revealing yourself ever.

 

[Salamander]

I did explain it but must of went right over your head.

"through faith". You must believe of which you say you do not. You are not kept by anyone if you do not believe.

You haven't explained anything coherently, only you have carried on about something you presumed.

 

[Brother Bob]

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