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Cause of Syria’s Incredible Bloodshed Is Finally Confirmed

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by poncho, Sep 17, 2015.

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  1. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    A major Guardian exclusive news story, on Tuesday, September 15th, headlined “West ‘ignored Russian offer in 2012 to have Syria’s Assad step aside’.” Their Julian Borger & Bastien Inzaurralde reported:

    Former Finnish president and Nobel peace prize laureate Martti Ahtisaari said western powers failed to seize on the proposal [for the U.S. and Russia to negotiate a replacement for Assad that would be accetable to both the U.S. and Russia]. … He said that the US, Britain and France were so convinced that the Syrian dictator was about to fall, they ignored the [Russian] proposal. “It was an opportunity lost in 2012,” Ahtisaari said in an interview. … On 22 February 2012 he was sent to meet the missions of the permanent five nations (the US, Russia, UK, France and China) at UN headquarters in New York by The Elders, a group of former world leaders advocating peace and human rights that has included Nelson Mandela, Jimmy Carter, and former UN secretary general Kofi Annan. … [Ahtisaari said Vitaly Churkin, Russia’s U.N. Ambassador] “said three things: One – we should not give arms to the opposition. Two – we should get a dialogue going between the opposition and Assad straight away. Three – we should find an elegant way for Assad to step aside.” …

    Continue . . . http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/09/cause-of-syrias-incredible-bloodshed-is-finally-confirmed.html
     
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    Melanie Active Member
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    Syria post colonial history has shown to be very unstable, with various factions struggling for domination. The people therein are made up of differing cultures, religions not including Muslim denominations, so it really should NOT be such a surprise to us.

    With the so called refugee crisis....how have the Arab States reacted? Does it not concern anyone of the number of men in their prime in the refugees, maybe I am paranoid but they could be a nucleus of a fifth column army insinuating itself into Europe? Just my thoughts...


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    They very well could be.

    But don't you think our obsession with arming opposing factions and regime change in other countries plays a role in the mass migration of people from the resultant war zones?
     
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    Yes Poncho, and the condemnation by the world. I don't pretend to have the answers, but allowing vicious infighting may be the lesser of two evils. One only knows with the benefit of hindsight.


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    If we're going by hindsight then we have every military intervention both overt and covert from the Korean "police action" stalemate to the overthrow of the Ukrainian government.

    You'd think we would have learned by now intervention in other's affairs only causes more trouble.

    Our founders knew this and warned us not make any entangling alliances. But here we are entangled with Saudi Arabia and other dictatorial governments because the "modern" politicians think they know more than the people who founded the United States.
     
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