Challenge: Prove there are Errors in a King James Bible

[Jarthur001]

Sure. Open up your KJV to the book Hosea. Easy, no?

That is Hosea. Not the same as the name Osee (in English). Remember the KJV is English, and the Greek is no longer good. The KJVonly idea is that no other translating needs to be done now that we have the KJV. In English of the KJV there is a Hosea and there is no Osee. In order to pick Hosea you must translate it in your mind that Hosea means Osee. This is not allowed in KJVonly camp. The translation is done and sealed forever. Throw away the greek...we have the KJV.

:BangHead: :BangHead:

It was hard to type this without laughing.

 

[Herb Evans]

Here's one that might be worth a go...did both David and Elhanan kill Goliath in which case this is an error proven within the NIV or were these two different Goliaths, in which case this Bible says something very different than other Bibles?

"As he was talking with them, Goliath, the Philistine champion from Gath, stepped out from his lines and shouted his usual defiance, and David heard it. 24 When the Israelites saw the man, they all ran from him in great fear." - 1 Samuel 17:23-24 (NIV)

"So David triumphed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone; without a sword in his hand he struck down the Philistine and killed him. - 1 Samuel 17:50 (NIV)

"In another battle with the Philistines at Gob, Elhanan son of Jaare-Oregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gittite, who had a spear with a shaft like a weaver's rod." - 2 Samuel 21:19 (NIV)
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Again, you are breaking the Challenger's rule. If you want to compare Samuel and Chronicles in regard to who killed Goliath, that would be very legitinmate, but you are using a non-KJB Bible. -- herb Evans

 

[Logos1560]

I believe that is a modification of the challenge; the chalenger was more specific than that! -- Herb Evans

You did not issue the challenge, and you have not proved that the challenge is valid. Just because someone issues a challenge does not make it valid. It does not matter how specific the challenge was if the challenge is invalid. You seem to assume that you make the rules at this forum and the rules for this thread.

The point of this thread seems to be an attempt to limit the Bible translation issue to a challenge based on inconsistent, invalid, and unproven KJV-only assumptions and premises. A challenge based on invalid premises would be invalid.

 

[Jarthur001]

Ha Ha Ha! Ho Ho Ho! Hee Hee Hee! Is that the best that you can do? Another way to spell a name is an error. And these are the guys that like the Greek, Brother Bunyan. -- Herb Evans

Just playing by the rules.

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Maybe you would like to post Osee. Come now...its getting late.

 

[Herb Evans]

Osee; the Greek form of the Hebrew word Hosea. Ho 2:23. Call them my people--not beloved; those who had been
cast off as enemies, he would reclaim and gather as friends.

:sleep:

I agree, but you broke the rule too. Still, his spelling error or difference is against the rule to begin with. -- Herb Evans

 

[Blammo]

That is Hosea. Not the same as the name Osee (in English). Remember the KJV is English, and the Greek is no longer good. The KJVonly idea is that no other translating needs to be done now that we have the KJV. In English of the KJV there is a Hosea and there is no Osee. In order to pick Hosea you must translate it in your mind that Hosea means Osee. This is not allowed in KJVonly camp. The translation is done and sealed forever. Throw away the greek...we have the KJV.

So what is the English word for Isaiah? :laugh:

It was hard to type this without laughing.

At yourself I presume...

 

[Blammo]

I agree, but you broke the rule too. Still, his spelling error or difference is against the rule to begin with. -- Herb Evans

Yes, I realized that. But the same argument can be made without breaking the rules. It was a minor infraction to say the least.

 

[Herb Evans]

Using only the KJV, do you think it would be possible to learn that Osee and Hosea are one in the same? I do.

By comparing the quotes in the same KJB? -- Herb Evans

 

[Jarthur001]

So what is the English word for Isaiah? :laugh:




At yourself I presume...

Playing by the rules of the KJVO....Isaiah is now Gods choosen word for the English. So yes...Isaiah is the name in a English Bible.

Any word on Osee??

 

[Herb Evans]

Sure. But that was not what was asked. It was asked to show error. The 1611 was off limits ...for their was typo they claim. Now today...this word is still not changed,

So....That means nothing.
They translated the word in the OT Hosea, and in the NT Osee. In the KJV there is no book called Osee. There is a book called Hosea. The quote can be found in Hosea. The Osee book cannot be found. It does not matter if would can read though and understand. There is not book Osee.


All they wanted was one error. You got it.

But you did not show any error, all you did is claim one and ask a question. It is not an error, so the burden of proof is on you to prove your allegation. -- Herb Evans

 

[Blammo]

By comparing the quotes in the same KJB? -- Herb Evans

Yes, sir, by doing just that.

 

[Herb Evans]

Yes, I realized that. But the same argument can be made without breaking the rules. It was a minor infraction to say the least.

Okay, I will have mercy on whom i will have mercy. You are forgiven. -- Herb Evans

 

[Jarthur001]

I agree, but you broke the rule too. Still, his spelling error or difference is against the rule to begin with. -- Herb Evans

Not so..
Lets repost the OP and look.

The only rule - you can only use a current King James Bible as your source -

No 1611 to show spelling errors, typos, etc.

- No manuscripts, Bishops, Geneva, etc. no "My professor says", etc. - You can only use an average modern-day King James Bible.

Notive the dash between each point. The spelling errors, typos, etc...are limited to 1611. Every thing else goes.

Come now...Osee please.

 

[Blammo]

Playing by the rules of the KJVO....Isaiah is now Gods choosen word for the English. So yes...Isaiah is the name in a English Bible.

Any word on Osee??

Matthew 3:3 For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.

Oh no!!! Who is Esaias? Jarthur has shaken my faith. :tongue3:

 

[Herb Evans]

The challenger discussed one example of variations between two KJV editions. The challenger offered no absolute standard for determining which of the variations was the correct one, showing that the challenger seems to be unable to show his challenge was valid. The challenger referred to "all my Cambridges" which is not just "a" or one KJV.

Perhaps the challenger did not know that there were 4,000 differences in current KJV editions.

Well, you have broken the rule again. But I guess you think that all differences are errors, so I can't help you there. -- Herb Evans

 

[Jarthur001]

Matthew 3:3 For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.

Oh no!!! Who is Esaias? Jarthur has shaken my faith. :tongue3:

Good point...

Who is Esaias??

Got to go....be back tonight looking for some answers.


Later guys...its been fun.

 

[Blammo]

Good point...

Who is Esaias??

Got to go....be back tonight looking for some answers.


Later guys...its been fun.

Silly guy, Esaias is Isaiah. (Who doesn't know that?) :laugh:

 

[Logos1560]

Can these renderings from a KJV be shown to be correct or incorrect according to the challenge?


Matt. 14:9 oaths' sake (a current KJV)
Matt. 23:24 strain out (a current KJV)
Mark 6:26 oaths' sake (a current KJV)
Luke 1:63 writing-tablet (a current KJV)
John 10:25 ye believe (a current KJV)
John 19:18 others (a current KJV)
Acts 7:45 Joshua (a current KJV)
Acts 25:23 were entered (a current KJV)
2 Cor. 1:21 establisheth (a current KJV)
2 Cor. 3:3 tablets (a current KJV)
Heb. 13:9 diverse (a current KJV)
1 Tim. 2:9 shamefastness (a current KJV)
Heb. 10:23 hope (a current KJV)
Jude 11 Korah (a current KJV)

 

[Herb Evans]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Herb Evans
That means that there are a lot of rule breakers on here that want to either change the subject or silence the Challenger's challenge. It also means that there are folks on here trying to foil that attempt. Thread like these produce many ear stoppers. Don't worry, the thread will be killed before too much is made obvious about Bible error finding. -- Herb Evans

Ah yes Herb, another one of your slanted attacks on the moderating team...

If the thread dies it will be due to posters personal attacks on individuals, only one of which has had to be snipped in this thread so far.

That socalled personal attack had a question mark after it. The second socalled attack was not an attack on the moderatorating team, that was a prediction made throgh my experience on BOARD KJB threads in the past that have been micromanaged beyond reason because of disagreements against the things posted. And also comments made on this thread like "red herring" shows me the way that the thread is going. -- Herb Evans

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Herb Evans
That means that there are a lot of rule breakers on here that want to either change the subject or silence the Challenger's challenge. It also means that there are folks on here trying to foil that attempt. Thread like these produce many ear stoppers. Don't worry, the thread will be killed before too much is made obvious about Bible error finding. -- Herb Evans





That socalled personal attack had a question mark after it. That was not an attack on the moderatorating team, that was a prediction made throgh my experience on KJB threads in the past that have been micromanaged beyond reason because of disagreements against the things posted. And also comments made on this thread like "red herring" shows me the way that the thread is going. -- Herb Evans

Though poor debating skills, red herrings do not violate the rules and it will run until it goes off topic or personal attacks step up.