Christian Contemporary Music in our churches

[sanderson1769]

I wrote this essay on why Christian Contemporary Music is wrong and how it is creeping in to even very conservative, fundamental Baptist churches.

http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/CCM.html

Thank you,

Pastor Steven L Anderson
Faithful Word Baptist Church
www.faithfulwordbaptist.org

 

[Joshua Rhodes]

 

[gtbuzzarp]

The hymns you mentioned were in their day considered controversial and contempory. Many so called "traditional hymns" are sung to originally secular tunes. And my guess is that many of the hymn writers were not KJVO people.

 

[Dave]

Maybe, but I'll bet it was easier to tell the difference between the secular song and the hymn since the music was more of a background to the words than current contemporary Christian music.

Also, there is no comparison between the message that the words convey. You can gleen much more doctrine in most of the traditional hymns than you'll ever get from contemporary ones. Thus, they also served to educate the people of God in correct doctrine as well as offering praise to God.

 

[DeclareHim]

Christian contemporary music, including Southern Gospel music, is not of the Father. 99% of artists writing and performing Christian contemporary music do not use the King James Bible, do not go soul-winning, do not live a separated life, do not dress like the Bible commands a Christian to dress, do not attend a local church faithfully, and yet godly Christians listen to their music as if it is not wrong music. If a song came from the Charismatics, is it of the Father or is it of the world? If a song came from the Pentecostals, is it of the Father or is it of the world?

Wow who died and made you God? you sit in judgement of people you don't even know it amazes me how you show little of Christ's love or attitude. Charismatics and Pentecostals aren't of the Father? Forgive me for not attending your church where only true Christians go..... bowing and praying to Steven L. Anderson.

the classic hymns are never out of style.

they listen to some talented musician perform for them. These type of “performances” lend themselves easily to the wrong type of music.

Now we know that this dude's problem is. He can't carry a tune in a bucket.

 

[rbell]

Steven,

I would decimate your arguments against all music you don't like, but the challenge is gone.

But feel free to write back when you have a scripturally informed opinion that is devoid of circular reasoning. Maybe then we can talk.

Until then, revel in your ignorance and pharasaical legalism...

Meanwhile, I'll be going tonight to see a student that was saved at our Wednesday Night Live service last week that had less than 50 year old songs played (and one 400 year old song, too).

 

[music4Him]

I'm Charismatic! I'm also KJVO! I also play the newer music as music has changed since David picked up a harp. But I also play the old hymns and accually I have a little 4 Quarter harmony songs I like to play and I sometimes put a little boogie woogie rift in hear and there.

Funny but if you think about it I am sure that if people back in Bach's day were still alive they might throw a hissy for us playing a hymn that was written in 1950! I could just hear what they'd say about Bill and Gloria Gaither! I'm glad God put a love for all types of music (and fellow Christians) into my soul (as long as it lifts up and brings glory to Jesus). I like the songs that mention the blood of Jesus, salvations plan, songs that praise Jesus. I am very selective about the newer songs, because some....well... they can flop either way as to being played in the secular world and some are down right worldly! Like "Knocking on Heavens Door" and "Bridge Over Troubled Water", ect. One is in our song book (that I have mentioned that it needs to come out and the other song "Bridge OTW", a guy sang a couple of months back.

 

[ccrobinson]

After all the nonsense this guy has posted today, I think it's safe to say that he's a troll.

 

[webdog]

Agreed! He needs to spend less time writing essays and more time defining what the Bible calls "worldliness", not what his church does.

 

[Shiloh]

I have no problem with the "newer" songs as long as they exalt Christ. It's the ones that they sing over and over and over without ever a mention of Christ or the Blood of the Lamb that I have a problem with. A lot of "worship" songs today you could sing to or about anybody. Most of the time they glorify the singer.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

And a lot of our traditonal hymn writers wore their hair shoulder length, even though it is a shame for a man to have long hair.

I think we should throw out those hymns as well.

 

[music4Him]

Originally posted by C4K:
And a lot of our traditonal hymn writers wore their hair shoulder length, even though it is a shame for a man to have long hair.

I think we should throw out those hymns as well.

 

[Mike McK]

Originally posted by sanderson1769:
I wrote this essay on why Christian Contemporary Music is wrong and how it is creeping in to even very conservative, fundamental Baptist churches.

http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/CCM.html

Thank you,

Pastor Steven L Anderson
Faithful Word Baptist Church
www.faithfulwordbaptist.org

Steve, I hope you'll forgive some of the comments made here.

We've had dozens and dozens of threads here on this subject and the things in your essay have all been debunked numerous times.

Of course, you're new and have no way of knowing that, but to those of us who have been here for a while, we're a little tired of the heavy handed "any music made after the invention of the wheel is bad" arguments.

You might get along a little better if you'll talk to us as fellow Christians and talk at us or down to us, as though we haven't already considered these things.

Now Playing: Gram Parsons - "GP"

 

[Mike McK]

By the way, Steve, I read in one of your essays that you've never met someone who studies Biblical Greek who could say "Hello. How are you?"

Γειάσου. Πώς είστε; Έχω διαβάσει τις γραφές σας και έχω καταλήξει στο συμπέρασμα ότι είστε ηλίθιος.

And now you have.

Τώρα παίζοντας: Elvis Costello - "σχεδόν μπλε"

 

[mcdirector]

Originally posted by Mike McK:
Steve, I hope you'll forgive some of the comments made here.

We've had dozens and dozens of threads here on this subject and the things in your essay have all been debunked numerous times.

Of course, you're new and have no way of knowing that, but to those of us who have been here for a while, we're a little tired of the heavy handed "any music made after the invention of the wheel is bad" arguments.

You might get along a little better if you'll talk to us as fellow Christians and talk at us or down to us, as though we haven't already considered these things.

Now Playing: Gram Parsons - "GP"

Mike, Thanks for saying this and the kind way in which you said it. Bitsy

 

[Mike McK]

Originally posted by mcdirector:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Mike McK:
Steve, I hope you'll forgive some of the comments made here.

We've had dozens and dozens of threads here on this subject and the things in your essay have all been debunked numerous times.

Of course, you're new and have no way of knowing that, but to those of us who have been here for a while, we're a little tired of the heavy handed "any music made after the invention of the wheel is bad" arguments.

You might get along a little better if you'll talk to us as fellow Christians and talk at us or down to us, as though we haven't already considered these things.

Now Playing: Gram Parsons - "GP"

Mike, Thanks for saying this and the kind way in which you said it. Bitsy </font>[/QUOTE]I think we've had enough hostility in the "rock is bad" threads.

I was just hoping to nip it in the bud.

Now Playing: Perry Como - "The Golden Voice of Perry Como"

 

[JGrubbs]

Pastor Steven L Anderson made it clear he is not just talking about "rock music". He stated that, "Christian contemporary music, including Southern Gospel music, is not of the Father." It's not just the music he is opposed to, it's anyone who claims to be a Christian but is not part of his Baptist Church of Legalism camp. About Southern Baptist He asks, "Do they believe the King James Bible we believe? Do they believe the gospel we believe in?"

His solution to the music debate is that we should "primarily sings songs which are 50 years or older."

This "us four and no more" legalistic Baptist brider mentality that is damaging to the Body of Christ! I grew up in a legalistic home, and remember my father crushing my Steven Curtis Chapman cd's with a hammer because they were "wordly CCM" cds.

 

[PastorSBC1303]

Typical legalistic arrogance that gives good Baptist people a bad reputation. Sad stuff.

 

[Mike McK]

By the way, I meant to say "...not talk at us or down to us...".

Now Playing: Prozak for Lovers - "Prozak for Lovers"

 

[Joshua Rhodes]

So that means 50 years from now the songs I write will be acceptable? Why? Because they're old?