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Christian Hedonism?

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by Jules, Mar 2, 2005.

  1. Jules

    Jules New Member

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    Is delight a mere by-product of duty in the Christian life, or is it a Christian's duty to be as happy as he can? Christian hedonism says that maximum happiness is precisely what we are duty bound to pursue. Let me know your thoughts.
     
  2. av1611jim

    av1611jim New Member

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    "In the world ye shall have tribulation".
    Doesn't sound like "delight" to me! :D
    In HIS service;
    Jim
     
  3. izzaksdad

    izzaksdad New Member

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    Jules,

    I see you are trying to cypher John Piper's "Desiring God"- (I think; it is one of his books anyway). A very interesting thought.
     
  4. USN2Pulpit

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    I don't think we should search after happiness...we should seek God, and in doing so, we experience the abundant life that was promised - regardless of present circumstances, we have joy.
     
  5. Pastor_Bob

    Pastor_Bob Well-Known Member

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    Jesus gives us the formula for happiness in His introduction to the Sermon on the Mount. There is no restriction in God's Word to pursuing happiness provided that happiness is found in the will of God.
     
  6. MargoWriter

    MargoWriter New Member

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    Amen USN2 and Pastor_B
    Rejoice in the Lord always, and again I say rejoice.
     
  7. preachinjesus

    preachinjesus Well-Known Member

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    I've read a lot of John Piper and Christian Hedonism seems to be pursuing the pleasure of God in his eyes. I might be wrong so let's talk about it.

    thanks for the thread
     
  8. MargoWriter

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    To be honest, I think the term just serves to confuse people. Let's be Christians . . . We all know what that means.
     
  9. Servent

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    [​IMG] A-Men
     
  10. Jules

    Jules New Member

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    "Because you did not serve the Lord your God with joy and a glad heart....therefore you shall serve your enemies!!" Deut 28:47-48
     
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    I have been struggling with John Piper's Desiring God for 3 months. Using his criteria, it has not been pleasurable to me, therefore, it must not be good for me. :confused: :confused:
     
  12. Joshua Rhodes

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    I've read the book... and heard him preach several times. I always leave thinking... HUH? I'm just a country boy, and I can tell that there's alot to what Piper says, but it's difficult to get my brain around sometimes. Doesn't keep me from trying to grow, though! I'll read it again in a year and see if it still puzzles me. Until then, (and forever) God is God, and I am not!!

    In His Grip,
    joshua
     
  13. Jules

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    At the end of the day there is probably some truth to Christian Hedonism, but wow what a very unfortunate word to be used in association with biblical Christianity. Great preaching at Bethlehem Baptist church though.
     
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    One who seeks happiness will never find it. But one who seeks God with all their heart, soul, mind and strength is sure to find joy.

    When we know God we have all we need--nothing more and nothing less.
     
  15. MargoWriter

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    When I consider the alternative to being saved, I am HAPPY!

    "Oh happy day, when Jesus washed my sins away".

    HankD
     
  17. izzaksdad

    izzaksdad New Member

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    gb has it pegged.

    sing hank, sing!
     
  18. Artimaeus

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    Imagine playing a baskerball game with a trophy as the prize. If you shoot at the trophy you will lose. If you shoot at the goal you can win the prize. In Christianity the goal is Christ and happiness is one of the prizes. If you shoot at the prize you will lose.
     
  19. aa0310

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    "Christian Hedonism", is not something that is taught in Scripture. I see that the English dictionary, defines "Hedonism" as "a devotion, especially a self-indulgent one, to pleasure and happiness as a way of life". Surely this is "feelings", something that we cannot really trust to be our guide as a Christian! I do not see in Scripture, that our pursuit should be for "pleasure and happiness". Surely we should be as the apostle Paul was, "to count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ" (Philippians 3:8). This indeed should be the one goal of all who say they are born-again Christians, to have a "one-track-mind" in following Jesus Christ at all costs. Our focus should be Christ, and NOT our self-satisfaction!
     
  20. Jules

    Jules New Member

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    Good response from aa0310 whoever he may be...
     
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