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Christians voting for Romney or Giuliani

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by saturneptune, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. saturneptune

    saturneptune New Member

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    Under what circumstances would you as a Christian vote for Romney or Giuliani?
     
  2. PastorSBC1303

    PastorSBC1303 Active Member

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    Against Hillary or pretty much any of the other Democrats in a heartbeat.
     
  3. saturneptune

    saturneptune New Member

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    Voting for any announced Democrat is not an option with me.
     
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    Romney -yes
    Giuliani- no way Jose.
     
  5. Bro. Curtis

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    Hmmm, a choice between a global warming capitulant open border apologist U.N. suck up, or a Democrat.....
     
  6. KenH

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    If that is whom one wants to be president.
     
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    I would never vote for either of them! If Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination, I will be voting third-party!
     
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    I would vote for one of them if I felt they were the best choice possible. Otherwise, I wouldn't.
     
  9. steaver

    steaver Well-Known Member

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    According to the Word of God, I, as a Christian, would be committing a sin to support either with my vote.

    1) Christians are not to yoke up with unbelievers.

    2) Christians are not to commit murder. Either directly or indirectly.

    God Bless! :thumbs:
     
  10. Pastor Larry

    Pastor Larry <b>Moderator</b>

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    Where in the Word of God are you referring to?

    Assuming that you have properly understood the passage on being yoked with unbelievers, how is a vote a yoke?

    How would that affect a vote for someone who also would not be committing murder?
     
  11. webdog

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    I hope you are self employed and grow your own food if you think voting is being "unequally yoked". :)
    All Christians according to Christ have done just that.
    In regards to Romney, what are you talking about?
     
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  12. steaver

    steaver Well-Known Member

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    Our government is a representative government. "We the people" rule. When you cast a vote for a candidate you are asking the person to represent you. That is "yoking up".

    Rudy supports murder. A vote for Rudy is yoking up with 1) an unbeliever 2) a murderer.

    You brother, being a pastor, of all people should understand these simple truths from scripture.

    God Bless! :thumbs:
     
  13. Pastor Larry

    Pastor Larry <b>Moderator</b>

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    As I suspected, you do not rightly understand what "yoking up" is in the Bible. It is not merely voting for someone.

    It is probably an overstatement to say that Guiliani supports murder. Supporting a "woman's right to choose" is not the same as murder, though it it is certainly wrong. There is a distinction between those who do things and those who allow them.

    I do understand them. But I don't think you do.

    First, the "yoke" of the Bible has no bearing on voting in the political process. That refers to a binding agreement to participate together in something. It would apply to things like marriage, or some business partnerships.

    Second, I don't support Guiliani at all, but someone who believes that the role of the government is limited in some way does not mean that they support the actions that they believe the government is not to address. The fact that I don't believe the government should regulate the message that is preached in church does not mean that I support every message that is preached in every church. So you are excluding a middle ground. I don't think that many who support abortion rights also support abortion. I think a great many are turned off by abortion. But they (wrongly) believe that the government has no role to play in it. Again, I disagree. But let's be honest about what they believe.
     
  14. steaver

    steaver Well-Known Member

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    And this has to do with representative government in what way?

    Scripture please.

    Romney has repented of his murderest ways. Rudy remains defiant.

    God Bless! :thumbs:
     
  15. steaver

    steaver Well-Known Member

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    What then is the "wrong" in supporting a woman's right to murder for you? What sin is committed?

    What scripture tells you this is for "binding agreements" ? Last I looked, marriage is no longer binding nor is business agreements. So asking a person to REPRESENT YOU in government sure is "yoking up" as taught in the scripture.

    God Bless! :thumbs:
     
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    I dunno, Pastor, isn't voting for someone doing exactly that? Participating with them in something? Taking part in a sort of business partnership? It's saying, "You be our leader and we will follow."

    I am really struggling with what I should do if Romney or Gulliani wins the nomination. I don't know if I can vote for either in good conscious, and I certainly can't vote for Hillary.

    Hoping for Huckabee or Paul, and praying to God for a good and Godly leader.
     
  17. saturneptune

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    You may think that votes are frivilous, but we will answer to God for every vote we cast. Whether or not you call it a yoke, the fact is, voting for a pro abortion candidate is endorsing it.

    The yoke is on you.
     
  18. saturneptune

    saturneptune New Member

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    Romney was either lying about abortion and gay rights when governor of Mass or now, running for President. It suggests a flawed character. Frankly, I dont think he cares one way or the other about abortion. He cares about what gets him elected, exactly what we do not need in a leader.
     
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    With Romney or Giuliani on the ticket, either position, my vote will go for a third party.
     
  20. Pastor Larry

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    It is wrong to enable others to sin, but it is not the same as sinning.

    The one God gave us, as it is written. You don't get to make up your own definitions in the context.

    Yes they are. Ask someone who tries to get out of them. There are numerous hassles precisely becuase you can't just walk away.

    No it's not, not by any Scripture that I am aware of. And you haven't actually offered any.
     
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