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Featured Church Conflict: I was called an arrogant Idiot, and to attend a Calvinist Church!

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by evangelist6589, May 16, 2014.

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  1. Jkdbuck76

    Jkdbuck76 Well-Known Member
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    I also have a passion for Joel Osteen....for him to get saved, dump the WoF GARBAGE he spews and to teach the whole counsel of God.

    Until that happens, I'll rage-vomit every time I see him.

    Evan, I don't think that you and this guy will see eye-to-eye. If he truly is brainwashed by Osteen, he thinks that God is the Galactic Santa Claus who gives us toys, keeps us healthy ONLY if we use magical faith-words, and He'll never EVER let us be poor if we're good little boys & girls.

    I hear what you're saying about the wife, but I'm not alone when I advise you to find a Calvie church....I'm just speaking my heart, brother. Until then, have fun continuously arguing with a man whose hero spends more on haircare products than you and I will make in our lifetime.
     
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  2. evangelist6589

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    Frankly I would rather be in the Calvinist church down the road, however my wife won't agree to it, and so I just join them on tuesdays and whenever possible. I noticed we are far more like minded. These are not Reformed, such as a church that emphasizes the sacraments, creeds, confessions, infant Baptism, and Amill eschatology, but a Calvinistic Dispensationalist church in Soteriology.
     
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    But we agree on the essentials of the faith!
     
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    Actually the pastors (although not Calvinist) do like the teachings of moderate Calvinist. The church is going through a Jerry Bridges book. I don't think they really care about the issue in the debate. The problem is this one brother whom hates Calvinist.
     
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    I agree. I did find a Calvinist church and I join the men once a week.
     
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    ........to find gambling going on in here! :eek:

    Sorry, couldn't resist.
     
    #27 Inspector Javert, May 17, 2014
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    So the Doctrines of Grace theology is not considered an essential to you?!?
     
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    Jesus is God
    The Bible is the Word of God
    The Trinity
    Jesus is the only way to salvation (John 14:6)
    Salvation by Grace and Justification by Faith (Eph 2:8-10)

    The Arminian believe these things and so they are my brothers.
     
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    I disagree here. If they are saved, they will accept him as he is. There are one or two who know my change in beliefs at my home church, and they have shown me nothing but respect.
     
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    Sorry I don't get it. I am not the sharpest tool in the shed. Probably due to the fact that I don't read from the same "to read" list suggested by some here.
     
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    You need to grind your iron harder Brother Dave. :smilewinkgrin: :D
     
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    Oh, I do agree. Unfortunately, the most precious commodity is time. I do read quite a bit, and quite a bit more "variety" then some certain one grants credit for. Glad you are still around these parts. A mature voice representing your positions.
     
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    But that is not what is happening in Evangelist's church is it?

    You are the EXCEPTION, not the rule.
     
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    What do you read? Tell me your curet reading list.
     
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    Most in the church do show me respect, however I have not gotten close or built any friendships with anyone, probably because we are not exactly like minded. However I have had much better success at the local Calvinist church, however I only meet with the men once a week. But they do have a men's breakfast at a local diner once a month of which I plan to join.
     
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    Would you be OK if someone started attending your Calvinist man-group and began exploiting the prayer request time to passively-aggressively spread his Arminian views?
     
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    ....and they maintain an anthropocentric perspective...ie manbecomes his own authority and point of reference.

    I heard a RC priest say that in a sermon the other day. A cording to him and his Catholic church, the will of man is the decisive factor in salvation. Do you agree with that?
     
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    Genesis Unbound (Sailhammer)
    Did Adam and Eve really exist (C John Collins)
    A Refutation of Hereditary Total Depravity (Aylett Raines)
    Beginnings (Bourteneff)
    The Edge of Evolution (Behe)
    The Evolution of Adam (Enns)
    Science and Faith (C John Collins)
    Predestination, Election and God's Sovereignty (Somers)
    If God, Why Evil (Geisler)
    Hard Questions, Real Answers (Craig)

    My most current digitized selections.

    Much more reading regarding my profession, curriculum development and planning.
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME
    ...........and your modesty annoys me.....
    you are actually one of the sharpest tools in this shed.
     
    #40 Inspector Javert, May 18, 2014
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