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Clinton Violates Presidential Protocol

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by carpro, Sep 18, 2005.

  1. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    Slick Willie didn't have any class as a president. He has even less now.
     
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    Clinton ignoring Presidential protoccol. Now there's a shocker.
     
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    Perhaps it was Clintons failure to back up the agreementst that were agreed to in the first gulf war, and his failure to make the UN follow throug, that has put us in Iraq now.

    On a further note: I am predicting a Clinton/Richardson ticket. Richardson is the NM governor and was in the Clinton cabanit.
     
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    He has done it in the past ...

     
  5. Daisy

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    From the opening paragraph of the article:
    Who are you to say that his criticism was not muted - it may have been far harsher before he toned it down.

    One of the first things Bush did when he came into office was unleash his attack dogs on Clinton. There are people who still believe that the offices were trashed and that the Clinton's stole furniture.

    Or is trashing your predecessor a legitimate tradition?
     
  6. Joseph_Botwinick

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    HAW..HAW...HAW!

    Now Daisy has gone from glee that Clinton is throwing stones to questioning the article and whether or not Bush should have thrown stones. I am guessing you have abandoned the glass house approach? [​IMG]

    Nobody cares anymore about the trashed offices. Ancient history. But, I am guessing that the liberals are still smarting from all of those elections they have lost in the last four years. :D

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  7. carpro

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    Another opinion on the subject:


    http://www.powerlineblog.com/

    Uncharted Territory, Once Again

    In recent years, the Democrats have violated many of the tacit conventions of civility that have enabled our political system to work for more than two centuries. Yesterday another barrier fell, and once again, we entered uncharted waters: former President Bill Clinton launched a vicious attack on President Bush on ABC's "This Week" program.

    This has never happened before. Until now, both parties have recognized a patriotism that, at some level, supersedes partisanship. Consistent with that belief, former Presidents of both parties have stayed out of politics and have avoided criticizing their successors. Until now. The Democrats appear bent on destroying every element of the fabric that has united us as Americans.

    Clinton's vicious attack is even worse in the context of his wife's Presidential bid: it is fair to assume that he was motivated not only by partisanship, but by his own desire to re-occupy the White House, and, most likely, wield once more the levers of power.
     
  8. Daisy

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    Very like the mule's daddy, Jack.

    First, no "glee", just observation about criticism, not throwing stones. I have "questioned" the article's & Joseph_Botwinick's interpretation that criticism is a violation of protocol and whether it matters in view of what is being criticised. Finally, I haven't questioned whether Bush should have "thrown stones" because there is a distinct difference between Clinon criticising his successor's actions and Bush's attack dogs telling lies about his predecessor.

    I have not abandoned the glass house approach, I've pointed out to Bushies that they are living in one.

    The offices were not trashed; that was a lie, rather a pointless lie that many people still believe. You dismiss lies let loose by one president as unimportant, but blast another for telling the truth. That says something interesting about your values.

    The elections weren't lost, they were stolen. [​IMG]
     
  9. Daisy

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    What a crock of spin! The masters of the smear are whining because the loyal opposition dared to criticise? Notice they are not denying the substance of the criticisms. That is the most telling point.

    He criticised the President's actions; he did not attack the man.

    I suppose he is relying on Americans' notorious ignorance of history in supposing he won't be challenged on that one.

    In 1918, ex-President Roosevelt challenged Woodrow Wilson's sweeping crackdown against dissent after the American entry into World War:
    Truth is truth no matter the motivation. Again, note the methodology at work: attack the messenger, not the message. Hmmmm.....
     
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    Carpro

    You don't think that the Dem's will pay the tax burden they placed upon the unsuspecting public?
     
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    Democrats love to spend everybody's money but their own. ;)
     
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    If this is true, Bush makes a very good democrat!
     
  14. El_Guero

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    Terry

    That hurts ... but is so true of all politicians ...
     
  15. Daisy

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    Thanks, carpro, for the link to the vindicating report.

    Of course, what was reported the year before:
    I suppose all that trash talk was just a frat-boy prank of the incoming administration, but it cost the tax-payers a bundle.

    But radical rightwingers sure do love to spend other people's money if they can embarrass the Democrats.
     
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    Obfuscation, Daisy.

    The GAO concluded those acts took place. You said it was all a lie.

    You were wrong.
     
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    I really don't understand why women are so eager to defend Clinton. After all, as Monica's father initially and correctly said, he is a misogynist.That is a woman hater for those who don't have a dictionary.

    Bill does have some unusual talents though and should be recognized for them:

    1. He can shed tears out of one eye, the one facing the camera!
    2. He is loyal to himself.
    3. ?
    4. ?

    By the way Monica was not 21, more like 18. But age never made any difference to Bill.
     
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    OR,

    Have you ever watched Donahue? This might answer some questions about why women defend HRH William of Hope. Speaking of which, last night I was watching my DVD of SNL best of Phil Hartman and he did this great skit about Phil Donahue where he was talking with abused women who still loved their abusers. Absolutely hillarious. If you get a chance to rent this or buy it, watch it...you will split your sides laughing. [​IMG]

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  19. Daisy

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    On your part [​IMG]

    I said it was a lie and for the most part it is. The Bushies tried to make out like the outgoing administration totally trashed the offices and stripped Air Force One bare, while the report says that any damage was minor and ordinary AND the GAO was unable to determine who had done the damage. It may have been the Bushies themselves, out of spite.


    No, you are.
     
  20. One View

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    As I recall, when Bush took office, he chose not to have any investigation into what may or may not have happened when Clinton left the White House. In fact, I've never heard Bush say anything bad about Clinton or question anything Clinton did.

    So you, Daisy, are quite wrong.
     
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