Cnn shock poll: Big majority think confederate flag symbol of heritage not racism

[Revmitchell]

As debate rages in South Carolina over the Confederate flag on its statehouse property, a majority of Americans see the rebel flag as a symbol of Southern pride, not a reminder of racism, according to a new CNN/ORC poll out Thursday. Public opinion is about where it stood 15 years ago, when the Palmetto State removed the rebel St. Andrew’s cross from the Capitol dome.

But there is a stark racial divide on how the banner is perceived and what should be done about references to the Confederacy.

Among all 1,017 adults participating, 57 percent said it’s a symbol of Southern pride, 33 percent called it more a symbol of racism and 5 percent said it’s both equally. Among whites, 66 percent said it symbolizes pride, while just 17 percent of African-Americans responded that way. In May 2000, 59 percent of Americans in the CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll called the flag a point of regional and historical pride

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...nfederate-flag-symbol-of-heritage-not-racism/

 

[Crabtownboy]

As debate rages in South Carolina over the Confederate flag on its statehouse property, a majority of Americans see the rebel flag as a symbol of Southern pride, not a reminder of racism, according to a new CNN/ORC poll out Thursday. Public opinion is about where it stood 15 years ago, when the Palmetto State removed the rebel St. Andrew’s cross from the Capitol dome.

But there is a stark racial divide on how the banner is perceived and what should be done about references to the Confederacy.

Among all 1,017 adults participating, 57 percent said it’s a symbol of Southern pride, 33 percent called it more a symbol of racism and 5 percent said it’s both equally. Among whites, 66 percent said it symbolizes pride, while just 17 percent of African-Americans responded that way. In May 2000, 59 percent of Americans in the CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll called the flag a point of regional and historical pride

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...nfederate-flag-symbol-of-heritage-not-racism/

If you are interested in showing your heritage why don't you also fly the British flag?

 

[JohnDeereFan]

If you are interested in showing your heritage why don't you also fly the British flag?

Because I'm not English and because I don't live in an English culture.

I am, however, Southern and do live in a Southern culture.

 

[Doubting Thomas]

As debate rages in South Carolina over the Confederate flag on its statehouse property, a majority of Americans see the rebel flag as a symbol of Southern pride, not a reminder of racism, according to a new CNN/ORC poll out Thursday. Public opinion is about where it stood 15 years ago, when the Palmetto State removed the rebel St. Andrew’s cross from the Capitol dome.

But there is a stark racial divide on how the banner is perceived and what should be done about references to the Confederacy.

Among all 1,017 adults participating, 57 percent said it’s a symbol of Southern pride, 33 percent called it more a symbol of racism and 5 percent said it’s both equally. Among whites, 66 percent said it symbolizes pride, while just 17 percent of African-Americans responded that way. In May 2000, 59 percent of Americans in the CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll called the flag a point of regional and historical pride

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...nfederate-flag-symbol-of-heritage-not-racism/

Yeah, I grinned when I read this. CNN may have "shocked" (and probably dismayed) with the result, but I'm sure most of the folks weren't.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Because I'm not English and because I don't live in an English culture.

I am, however, Southern and do live in a Southern culture.

And you no longer live in the Confederate States of America just like you are no longer a subject of England.

But, at one time your state was subject to England, and so that is also part of your heritage and culture.

So, again, why don't you fly the British flag?

 

[Revmitchell]

I do not care about the flag one way or the other. It means little to nothing to me. I believer, however, that the appropriate response to the death of blacks is not to ban a flag that has nothing to do with it.

 

[Crabtownboy]

I do not care about the flag one way or the other. It means little to nothing to me. I believer, however, that the appropriate response to the death of blacks is not to ban a flag that has nothing to do with it.

How about the Black Power flag?

 

[Revmitchell]

How about the Black Power flag?

Again I do not have an opinion one way or the other. However, if they are going to call for the end of one they should call for the end of both or say nothing at all. In the end this is about banning free speech either way.

 

[Zaac]

As debate rages in South Carolina over the Confederate flag on its statehouse property, a majority of Americans see the rebel flag as a symbol of Southern pride, not a reminder of racism, according to a new CNN/ORC poll out Thursday. Public opinion is about where it stood 15 years ago, when the Palmetto State removed the rebel St. Andrew’s cross from the Capitol dome.

But there is a stark racial divide on how the banner is perceived and what should be done about references to the Confederacy.

Among all 1,017 adults participating, 57 percent said it’s a symbol of Southern pride, 33 percent called it more a symbol of racism and 5 percent said it’s both equally. Among whites, 66 percent said it symbolizes pride, while just 17 percent of African-Americans responded that way. In May 2000, 59 percent of Americans in the CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll called the flag a point of regional and historical pride

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...nfederate-flag-symbol-of-heritage-not-racism/

I'm shocked.

Not hardly.

 

[Zaac]

And you no longer live in the Confederate States of America just like you are no longer a subject of England.

But, at one time your state was subject to England, and so that is also part of your heritage and culture.

So, again, why don't you fly the British flag?

Because the folks who fly the British flag oppressed his ancestors. It can only be the heritage of Whites in America if they were the dominant force. :laugh:

 

[JohnDeereFan]

And you no longer live in the Confederate States of America just like you are no longer a subject of England.

I was never a subject of England. I was, however, born, raised, and live in the South.

But, at one time your state was subject to England, and so that is also part of your heritage and culture.

Really? When, specifically, was Alabama subject to England?

So, again, why don't you fly the British flag?

Same reason I gave you before: Because I'm not English.

 

[carpro]

How about the Black Power flag?

Really stupid comparison. :BangHead:

 

[JohnDeereFan]

I was never a subject of England. I was, however, born, raised, and live in the South.



Really? When, specifically, was Alabama subject to England?



Same reason I gave you before: Because I'm not English.

Still waiting to hear about Alabama's oppression under the English flag.

 

[Zaac]

This really is stupid. As someone mentioned the other day, this flag that all these folks are claiming to be a symbol of their Confederate Heritage has NEVER been the Confederate Flag.

This flag that all these folks are claiming to be representative of their heritage is The Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia when it was led by Robert E. Lee.

The flag that is causing such a furor was not “the Confederate flag,” as so many news reports have described it. It was a military flag, originally square in form, designed by William Porcher Miles, an aide to General P.G.T. Beauregard, after the first Battle of Manassas, because Beauregard thought that the Confederate national flag, which had a circle of white stars in a blue canton and three broad stripes, red, white, and red, was too easily confused with the Union flag in the smoke of battle. Miles’s battle flag was never approved by the Confederate Congress and never adopted as a national flag. It never flew over Confederate government offices, or over the Capitol at Richmond.

It was not even prominent among the symbols of the Lost Cause that helped create the myth of the noble suffering South during the years after the Civil War, nor was it celebrated during those years as a hallowed symbol of the Southern past, as apologists for it claim. According to University of Mississippi historian Allen Cabaniss, writing in The Encyclopedia of Southern Culture, it was seldom displayed at Confederate reunions or used by any of the societies of descendants of Confederate veterans. My grandmother’s United Daughters of the Confederacy chapter used the first national flag, the one that Beauregard thought could be confused with the Union flag, at their meetings, and she made me a small one out of silk to hang in my bedroom.

Cabaniss describes how the Confederate battle flag emerged “out of limbo” as a symbol of white supremacy and segregation during the Dixiecrat political campaign of 1948, when Strom Thurmond of South Carolina ran for president on a platform of states’ rights and segregation. Newspaper accounts of the States Rights Democratic Party convention in Birmingham, Alabama, describe delegates marching into the auditorium under Confederate battle flags as bands played “Dixie.” This set the stage for the adoption of the battle flag by the Ku Klux Klan and the White Citizens Councils across the South as a symbol of their racist opposition to integration. The first time I can remember seeing a picture of the battle flag carried in public was during the Clinton, Tennessee, race riot in 1956, when hooded Klansmen descended on the town and paraded down the main street under the flag.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/02/the...acists_and_segregationists_made_it_their_own/

So contrary to the racially prejudiced and racist views of some of you, the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia was adopted by white supremacists specifically for racial reasons during Jim Crow.

It IS NOT the flag of the Confederate States and has nothing to do with that heritage.