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Colin Powell backs Iran deal as Congress prepares for a vote

poncho

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Crabtownboy said:
You are correct Poncho, but don't expect Rev. to understand.

What if God had Rev's attitude toward sinners?
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The Rev's attitude isn't what concerns me. All things being equal I agree with the Rev, we shouldn't negotiate with terrorists. But things aren't all equal as the article I linked to shows.
 
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poncho said:
The Rev's attitude isn't what concerns me. All things being equal I agree with the Rev, we shouldn't negotiate with terrorists. But things aren't all equal as the article I linked to shows.
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Things are never as simple as many would like to believe.
 
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Crabtownboy said:
Things are never as simple as many would like to believe.
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Sure they are. Iran is slaughtering people in other countries, they have imprisoned US citizens on trumped up charges, they want Israel destroyed off the face of the earth and the only single reason they want that is simply because they are Jews.

Seeing as how you support organizations like PP that slaughter unborn children it comes as no surprise that you support countries that slaughter adults as well.
 
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Revmitchell said:
Sure they are. Iran is slaughtering people in other countries, they have imprisoned US citizens on trumped up charges, they want Israel destroyed off the face of the earth and the only single reason they want that is simply because they are Jews.
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You paint with far too wide a brush. Poncho ask a good question. Please answer him.

Seeing as how you support organizations like PP that slaughter unborn children it comes as no surprise that you support countries that slaughter adults as well.
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And, as so often happens when you realize you have taken an indefensible stance you try to derail the thread.

I support peace and following the teachings of the Prince of Peace. Why don't you try his approach to making peace?
 
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Revmitchell said:
Christians live there and they hate them as well. I suggest you ask them how it benefits them in light of their obvious hatred.
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What makes you think they hate all Jews and Christians? Why are they not killing all of them inside their country?
 
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Crabtownboy said:
You paint with far too wide a brush. Poncho ask a good question. Please answer him.



And, as so often happens when you realize you have taken an indefensible stance you try to derail the thread.

I support peace and following the teachings of the Prince of Peace. Why don't you try his approach to making peace?
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Red herring alert. Everyone wants peace. Opposing this Iran deal does not mean not wanting peace. Also I am not derailing the thread I ans showing your history of supporting people who slaughter others. Iran (which is the topic of this thread) is one the those groups of people you apparently support even thought they slaughter others. Further, you take the typical liberal position of opposing fellow Americans much like Obama while supporting people slaughtering terrorist nations like Iran.

So yes I am on topic.
 
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The Islamic Republic of Iran often is in the news, and usually for all the wrong reasons. Tehran is suspected of developing nuclear weapons, though U.S. intelligence agencies see no evidence of an active nuclear weapons program. Iran also has a deteriorating human rights record.

The Islamic state is a particularly inhospitable home to religious minorities—Christians, Baha’is, Jews, Sunni Muslims. Iran is Exhibit #1 for the threat posed by Islamic fundamentalists gaining control of government.

Iran is not the most tyrannical government in the Middle East. America’s ally Saudi Arabia may deserve that title. Syria is the most dangerous, having slid into a full-scale civil war.

Nevertheless, Iranian repression is increasing and the space available to regime opponents is diminishing. Observed the Washington Post: “the anti-establishment energy that drove violent protests four years ago has disappeared, quashed by the heavy-handed crackdown in 2009 that followed Mahmud Ahmadinejad’s contested reelection.”

Genuine liberals long have been beyond the pale. Even respected Muslim leaders who differ from the dominant ruling faction face barriers to participating in the political process. Indiana University Professor Jamsheed Choksy recently warned that Iran was “expanding its crackdown on political, religious and social freedoms in advance of the June 14 [presidential] election.”

Even the United Nations has taken note. Last December the General Assembly approved a resolution, its 25th since 1985, criticizing Tehran for its brutal repression.

In February the UN released a highly critical 79-page assessment: “Report of the Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Islamic Republic of Iran.” The Special Rapporteur, Ahmed Shaheed, concluded “that there continues to be widespread systemic and systematic violations of human rights in the Islamic Republic of Iran. Reports communicated by nongovernmental organizations, human rights defenders, and individuals concerning violations of their human rights or the rights of others continue to present a situation in which civil, political, economic, social, and cultural rights are undermined and violated in law and practice.”
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/dougbandow/2013/05/13/the-perils-of-religious-persecution-in-iran/
 
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The Saudi Arabian government has reportedly passed a law that imposes the death penalty on people caught smuggling Bibles into the majority-Muslim country.

According to the HeartCry Missionary Society, the Saudi government issued an official statement signifying that capital punishment may now be used on those who smuggle Bibles into the desert nation, where the royal family upholds a strict Wahhabi brand of Sunni Islam.

The society's report added that the death penalty, which usually comes in the form of beheadings, can also be used against people who simply distribute the Bible and all other "publications that have prejudice to any other religious belief other than Islam." This means that anyone handing out any kind of religious literature that is not of Islamic faith can legally be executed.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/saudi-arabias-new-law-imposes-death-sentence-for-bible-smugglers-131352/

Dozens of Christians 'including women and children' are arrested in Saudi Arabia after tip-off to state's Islamist police force

Islamist police in Saudi Arabia have stormed a Christian prayer meeting and arrested its entire congregation, including women and children, and confiscated their bibles, it has been reported.
The raid was the latest incident of a swingeing crackdown on religious minorities in Saudi Arabia by the country's hard-line Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2756134/Dozens-Christians-including-women-children-arrested-Saudi-Arabia-tip-state-s-Islamist-police-force.html


WASHINGTON — When you're royalty, go big or don't go at all.

That's at least true for Saudi Arabia's King Salman, who touched down on U.S. soil Thursday to the sight of dozens of black luxury cars awaiting his arrival at Joint Base Andrews located just outside Washington in Prince George's County, Md.

Wall Street Journal reporter Carol Lee snapped a photo of his epic entourage. (On a recent trip to France, Salman had a 10-vehicle motorcade, and hired an additional 400 luxury car drivers, the BBC reported.)

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/03/saudi-king-salman-visit-president-obama-royal-fashion-and-goes-big/71655868/

Four Seasons rolls out the red carpet for King Salman

In anticipation of King Salman bin Abdulaziz of Saudi Arabia’s stay, the Four Seasons hotel in Georgetown has done some redecorating — literally rolling out red carpets in order to accommodate the royal’s luxurious taste.

Eyewitnesses at the property have seen crates of gilded furniture and accessories being wheeled into the posh hotel over the past several days, culminating in a home-away-from-home fit for the billionaire Saudi monarch, who is in Washington for his first White House meeting with President Barack Obama tomorrow.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/four-seasons-king-salman-visit-red-carpet-213324#ixzz3l0Y5J2G2

Welcome to America – Several Things to Ponder as the Saudi King Visits the White House

As we speak, U.S. leaders are rolling out the red carpet for one of the most ruthless and barbaric governments in the world: Saudi Arabia.

http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2015/09/04/welcome-to-america-several-things-to-ponder-as-the-saudi-king-visits-the-white-house/

One man's terrorist is another man's proxy fighter . . . or honored guest as the case may be.

In a less Orwellian world consistency would demand condemning Sunni as well as Shiite persecution and terrorism. Wouldn't it?
 
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