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Complaint Suggests Obama Might Have Caught Wind of Blagojevich Dealings

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  1. rbell

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    Um, you got it wrong. The correct statement is "it depends on what your definition of 'is' is."


    :D

    Just kidding, Ken. I couldn't let that go without being a smart aleck.

    Back to the topic...I think Obama is probably sincere in all of this.

    But his chief of staff, Emmanuel, looks dirty as heck. It appears he was in talks with Gov. Blaggy. And his hostility towards those who have asked him about it (and his refusal to answer questions) doesn't look good.

    My forecast (and keep in mind...my forecasts plus a buck buys a decent cup of joe at McDonald's) is that Obama will eventually jettison Emmanuel before he does him political damage.
     
    #21 rbell, Dec 12, 2008
  2. tinytim

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    What if Obama knew, and had Emmanuel tip off the investigators...?

    And Rbell.. here's what you can get for your forecast and a buck...

    http://www.unsnobbycoffee.com/
     
    #22 tinytim, Dec 12, 2008
  3. Pastor Larry

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    If Emmanuel knew, and it looks like he did, this is yet another demonstration of the poor judgment of Obama. This was a major red flag all along, and it was highlighted by picks like Biden for VP, of Clinton for SoS. Emmanuel had a horrible reputation going in and it was well known, and Obama picked him anyway, perhaps to settle a political debt. He simply is not a good judge of character, starting with his own.

    So we knew we were going to get this kind of bad judgment all along, and this is just par for the course that we all have to suffer from because some people made bad decisions.
     
    #23 Pastor Larry, Dec 12, 2008
  4. JustChristian

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    I don't understand the drift here. Wouldn't everyone expect the president-Elect to have conversations with the Gov. of Ill. about his replacement? I would. The fact that Obama took his candidate out of consideration and gave him a position in Obama's administration says Obama didn't want to play this guy's crooked game.
     
    #24 JustChristian, Dec 12, 2008
  5. Revmitchell

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    Yes we would. We also would expect that if he had any inclination that the Gov was trying to act illegally he would speak up to the proper authorities. But I imagine that is difficult when you have campaigned for the man.
     
    #25 Revmitchell, Dec 12, 2008
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    How do you know he didn't inform the FBI. Informing authorities is not something you want to have broadcast all over the front of the newspapers or have talk shows arguing over.
     
    #26 Crabtownboy, Dec 12, 2008
  7. tinytim

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    That's what I am thinking...
     
    #27 tinytim, Dec 12, 2008
  8. targus

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    Obama said that he did not talk to him about the replacement. According to prior news reports HE LIED about this.

    The story was already out. Why did HE LIE about it?
     
    #28 targus, Dec 12, 2008
  9. carpro

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    And it appears Obama knows it. Therefore the Clintonesque answer. "I have not"...

    That's why he suddenly decided the "ongoing investigation" merited silence.

    Avoiding answering a question you know the answer to is just another form of dishonesty.
     
    #29 carpro, Dec 12, 2008
  10. carpro

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    Uh huh. Makes a lot of sense, but Obama says he didn't.

    It simply begs for disbelief.
     
    #30 carpro, Dec 12, 2008
  11. carpro

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    Possible.

    But there has been absolutely no indication that such is the case. From anybody. Ever.

    Obama's buddy , Rahm, will be questioned under oath, I am sure.
     
    #31 carpro, Dec 12, 2008
  12. KenH

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    The prior reports were incorrect.
     
    #32 KenH, Dec 12, 2008
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    So he knew of the game, and didn't say anything ?
     
    #33 Bro. Curtis, Dec 12, 2008
  14. KenH

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    The federal prosecutor stated that Barack Obama is clean in this matter. That should be sufficient.
     
    #34 KenH, Dec 12, 2008
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    Criminally, perhaps.

    But his evasiveness when questioned indicates he's lying to the public about something or hiding something.

    A stand up honest guy doesn't dodge a direct question whith his "ongoing investigation" bologna.

    He knows more than he is letting on and he's lying by omission.
     
    #35 carpro, Dec 12, 2008
  16. targus

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    Obama's Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel said that Obama met with the Governor to discuss the replacement.

    How do you know that the other reports are wrong? Are you more in touch with Obama than Emanuel?
     
    #36 targus, Dec 12, 2008
  17. KenH

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    Do you have a link to a reliable source(i.e., not a right-wing website such as Fox News)?
     
    #37 KenH, Dec 12, 2008
  18. John Toppass

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    Obama new something was rotten and did not talk, afterall that is the Chicago way.
     
    #38 John Toppass, Dec 12, 2008
  19. Revmitchell

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    Barack Obama Met With Illinois Governor About Senate Successor

    At a news conference today, President-elect Barack Obama said that he had no contact with disgraced Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich (D-IL) or anyone on the governor's staff about potential replacements for Obama in the United States Senate. But that statement directly contradicts Obama's top political strategist, David Axelrod, who told a local Chicago television reporter less than two weeks ago that Obama did have a conversation with Blagojevich about the Senate vacancy.

    "I know [Obama has] talked to the governor, and there are a whole range of names, many of which have surfaced, and I think he has a fondness for a lot of them."

    Axelrod issued a statement retracting the comments, saying they were, "mistaken." But that explanation does not seem credible. Axelrod is Obama's closest adviser and is widely credited with being the mastermind of his election campaign. It is simply not believable that he would be mistaken about the basic fact of whether or not a meeting had taken place between the Governor of Illinois and the President-elect. And it is equally not believeable that he would be deliberately misleading on the subject.


    More Here
     
    #39 Revmitchell, Dec 12, 2008
  20. Revmitchell

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    FBI: Illinois Governor Sought To "Sell" Obama's Senate Seat

    ................Obama addressed the scandal over his Senate seat Tuesday afternoon, saying, "I had no contact with the governor or his office and so we were not, I was not aware of what was happening." But Obama's senior advisor David Axelrod told a Chicago affiliate of Fox News that Obama had in fact spoken to Blagojevich about his empty Senate seat. ...............


    More Here
     
    #40 Revmitchell, Dec 12, 2008
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