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Compromise Time for the Democrats?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Mar 5, 2008.

  1. KenH

    KenH Active Member

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    By the end of the primaries/caucuses Senator Obama will win the most popular votes and the most pledged delegates, while Senator Clinton will win all of the big states(assuming she would win Pennsylvania) except for Illinois.

    In order to avoid a divided party(and causing the nation to suffer through another disastrous Republican presidency with Senator McCain) and since both candidates' positions on the issues are so close, perhaps it is time for the two candidates to meet and one or the other needs to be willing to accept the vice presidential slot with the other one accepting the presidential slot. Yes, one of them will have swallow a wad of ego to do this, but for the good of the Democratic Party and, more importantly, for the good of the country, I think this needs to be done. The vast majority of Democrats like both candidates and I think would find this acceptable.

    And even though I prefer Senator Obama as president I would go along with him accepting the vice presidential slot.
     
  2. Crabtownboy

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    Good suggestion, but sadly I fear it will not happen. With the huge egos most politicians have I doubt they will compromise.:BangHead:
     
  3. Ps104_33

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    I want to see a blood bath in the democratic party. I want to see it go all the way to a brokered convention with the Clinton political machine stealing the election off of Obama and being accused of racism and not wanting to see a black man president of the United States. (I'm sorry Ken, "these United States"). I doubt very much if either one of them need each other on the ticket. If democrats are voting Obama because they dont like Clinton, I cant see them wanting Obama playing second fiddle to a person they cant stand. I think Obama will consider Clinton's likabitity factor before putting her on his ticket. I dont see a Clinton/Obama or an Obama/Clinton at all. We all know that If Obama wins the nomination, Clinton will fight tooth and nail for that VP spot because it will be her only and last shot at becoming POTUS.
    Also the longer the bloodbath goes on the weaker McCains opponent will be in the fall. Dont forget that Clinton still has Florida and Michigan.


    "Neither Clinton nor Obama can win enough pledged delegates to secure the nomination before the convention, so their race will last through the summer unless one of them drops out. To understand why this is good news for John McCain, consider the events of the last two weeks, as Obama sought to knock Hillary out of the race for good and Hillary fought to save her campaign: First, Obama distributed a flier in Ohio that misquoted Clinton as saying that the North American Free Trade Agreement had been a “boon” to the economy. Clinton quickly pointed out that the word “boon” was used a newspaper’s characterization of her views; it was not a direct quote. She proceeded to denounce NAFTA — which, incidentally, has been a boon to the economy — prompting a “race to the bottom” between the two candidates that ended with both of them embracing the radical position that the U.S. should pull out of NAFTA unless it can be renegotiated to include some relatively ineffectual labor and environmental requirements."
    http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YTQ1MDQzZTUzNjk3ZmE0OGE0ZDAwNTg0MzAxNDg0YzY=

    Isnt it strange that NAFTA was a boon to the economy whil Bill was President?
     
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    "There is no substitute for victory".
     
  5. PastorSBC1303

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    Obama would be crazy to select Hillary as VP
     
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    I want to see as much disorder and chaos as possible within the democratic party. A democrat in office at this point in time would be disasterous to our country. Let the blood bath commence...
     
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    A willingness to compromise before the fight is decided is indicative of what would be wrong with a democrat as a president, when we have so many enemies that wish for our complete destruction as a nation.
     
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    Had Clinton not done so well in Texas and Ohio this may have happened. She now has a new tail wind and will ride this wave to the shore. Personally, I don't think it will hurt anything except the undecided votes. I can't see anyone considering either of these candidates switching their vote to McCain. I know I will vote democrat this year no matter which candidate wins the ticket.

    Now their are some individuals who might not want a woman or a black president. Those people will switch either way of their preference doesn't get the ticket.

    The undecided... Clinton spent less but had far more effective TV ad's. She seem to have found Obama weakness which tilted things her way in Texas and Ohio. If Obama wins the ticket, she is giving McCain an effective strategy for his campaign.
     
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    So far the democrats have only seen McCain's "nice" side. Wait until there is a nominee. They will wish they were never born.
    [​IMG]
     
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    And THAT IS his nice side! :laugh:
     
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    You are forgetting to factor in Bill Clinton.

    With Bill Clinton as either the defacto co-President or co-Vice President, Obama would be in a constant struggle for power.

    Why would he want that hassle either as President or Vice President?
     
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    Being vice president would add to his resume to run in 2016.
     
  13. KenH

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    Not necessarily. I seem to recall that in this past MLB postseason that Colorado rolled all the way to the World Series with hardly any opposition and was well rested, while Boston had fight tooth and nail to make it to World Series and then rolled to a World Series victory like Colorado wasn't even there.
     
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    Eight years as VP under the Clinton co-Presidents didn't seem to help Gore very much.
     
  15. KenH

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    Yes, but Vice President Gore ran one of the worst general election presidential campaigns that I have witnessed in my lifetime. It was on a par with that of President George H.W. Bush in 1992.
     
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    You would also have to consider what close association with the Clintons would do to his reputation. The Clintons do seem to be challenged in the ethics department.
     
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    Looks to me like Obama has earned his spot at the top of the ticket right now.

    Why would he settle for VP? :confused:
     
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    Politics

    Politics is the art of compromise.
     
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    And a beautiful thing it was......
     
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    I can imagine Clinton on the top spot and Obama as the VP. I cannot imagine the reverse. Clinton needs Obama when all is said and done. Obama does not need Clinton.
     
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