Conversion-Immersion

Read her recent posts carefully.
Is it acceptable to call other evangelicals "bigots"?

 

What is Regeneration?

Eph. 4:18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
19 Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.

The best way to define what is regeneration is to define what it is to be unregenerate. Paul does this in the text above as he decribes those who are "alienated from the LIFE of God."

What alienates them from the life of God?

1. "through the ignorance that is in them"
2. "because of the blindness of their heart"
3. "having their understanding darkened"

Regeneration is reversing this internal state or condition of their understanding and heart.

Paul further describes the state of the unregenerate condition of the understanding or mindset:

"for the carnal mind is at ENMITY with God and is NOT SUBJECT to the law of God and neither indeed CAN BE. So they that are in the flesh cannot please God." - Rom. 8:7-8

Paul further describes the state of the unregenerate condition of the understanding or mindset:

1 Cor. 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

The unregenerate condition has to to with the understanding of the mind and the condition of the heart. Water cannot reverse this internal condition!! How would baptism reverse this internal darkness, enmity towards God, refusal to submit to the law or revealed will of God?

Would not this internal state have to be reversed before a person would even be willing to submit to baptism???? If the reversal of this inward state of mind and heart occured in baptism would not that be baptismal regeneration???

 

As smooth as oil and slippery as a snake

 

Didn't have Lori in mind at all nor how you treat her one way or the other.

 

Again, what would true repentance require from the heart and mind of a person BEFORE baptism that would not require any change in the described condition in Ephesians 4:18 until baptism?

 

So you baptize unrepentant and unbelieving CANDIDATES for baptism? Why then did John require "fruits meet for repentance" BEFORE baptizing - Mt. 3:6-8

 

Tell me plainly, and not with an "I don't know answer," for I will give you the plain facts.

I trusted the Lord Jesus Christ as my Savior. I knew at that time that I was born again and my sins were forgiven. I had put my faith in Christ. I was justified by faith and had peace with God.

Two years later I was baptized.

Now in the intervening years, was I saved or not?

 

Thats completly false, and you are proclaiming a false gospel.

We are justified before God, and given the gift of eternal life, through faith in Christ ALONE.

The scriptures are clear regarding that.

The scriptures are equally clear that what you are proclaiming a gospel that will not save.

You need to stop heeding the words of men and turn the the scriptures alone as your source for truth.

This is a serious matter.

 

If anyone cannot see clearly that you do not know what you are talking about they are as blind as you are. You have declared DKH as a liar in his profession for two years and lost and your candidates for baptism are yet unrepentant and unbelievers. Your whole ecclesiology and soteriology fall together with your view of regeneration.

 

"slick as oil and slippery as a snake" - Isn't everything you believe based upon your "understanding" of the scriptures????Your understanding of the scriptures is a frank denial in your opinion that anyone giving his testimony could be genuinely saved before baptism. Thus your "understanding" is a frank declaration that you believe he could not have been a true born again child of God in those two years prior to baptism. It is not merely your "understanding" but your avowed doctrine that all such unbaptized persons cannot be regenerate, justified or saved.

 

Again, do your candidates for baptism have any change of mind and heart from what is described in Ephesians 4:18 as the unregenerate condition BEFORE you baptize them? So does Romans 10:10 occur in baptism? If so, then how do YOU know who is to baptize?

 

Bad example, DHK. You had already been baptized some 22 years earlier so of course you were saved. The second "two years later" time was of no effect other than as a testimony.