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Could I get some feedback on this site?

Bro. Williams

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You may want to freshen up some...

Man, you don't know what self-control is. I am at perfect peace and in a pleasant calm state. Just wanted to let you know I disagree. This is, afterall, a forum where people speak back and forth. Otherwise, we must all be more in line with temperance and not post at all. You first!
 

Spoudazo

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Not even taking into account secular history regarding the length of the Lord's hair, do you think He'd shame himself?

1 Cor. 11:14-15.
 

Bro. Williams

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Spoudazo said:
Not even taking into account secular history regarding the length of the Lord's hair, do you think He'd shame himself?

1 Cor. 11:14-15.

I try not to take secular history into account over the Bible.

On shame, yes he obviously did.


Isaiah 50:6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.

Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Do you not think it was shameful to be naked upon a cross?

He became a curse, and he BORE my shame.

Without malice I ask you, what are some other examples from the Bible that would support the short hair theory?
 

Bro. Williams

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Alright, my apologies for helping to hijack this thread. I don't care to start a new one, but surely this thread "Did Jesus Have Long or Short Hair?" or something similar has been done, and probably redone... am I correct?

If it hasn't, someone take the pleasure of beginning that, it is bedtime here. Sorry for the hijack, it got your site some more exposure though...
 

Spoudazo

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"Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God." (Hebrews 12:2)

"Shame" in Hebrews 12:2 is,
1. a sensitivity respecting possibility of dishonor, modesty, shame a feeling that one has (Aristoxenus, fgm. 42a; Diod. S. 2, 4, 3; Plut., Mor. 248b; UPZ 70, 25 [II BC]; PGM 17a, 8; PsSol 9:6; En 13:5 avpo. aiv.; Jos., Ant. 5, 147) to. th/j aivscu,nhj e;nduma patei/n prob. to throw off and tread under foot the garment of shame (which men have worn since the awakening of modesty, i.e. the fall, Gen 3:7, cp. 2:25) GEg 252, 57 (cp. Mel., P. 68, 483 to.n qa,naton evndu,saj ai;scu,nhn). ta. krupta. th/j aiv. what one conceals fr. a feeling of shame 2 Cor 4:2. Modesty, reverence (w. fo,boj) of slaves toward masters D 4:11; B 19:7 (cp. X., Cyr. 6, 1, 35; Soph, Ajax 1079; Demosth. 25, 24).

2. an experience of ignominy that comes to someone, shame, disgrace (Ath. 1:4; Diod. S. 2, 23, 2; Appian, Samn. 4 §11; PEleph 1, 6; PTebt 104, 30; POxy 471, 78; Sir 25:22; EpArist 206; Philo; TestLevi 15:2): h` aiv. th/j gumno,thtoj shameful nakedness Rv 3:18. katafronei/n aivscu,nhj disdain the shame Hb 12:2. h` do,xa evn th/| aivscu,nh| auvtw/n they find their glory in that which causes them shame Phil 3:19. meta. aivscu,nhj in disgrace (Demosth. 20, 16; Polyb. 3, 81, 6; 1 Esdr 8:74; Philo, Det. Pot. Ins. 51; Jos., Ant. 12, 179) Lk 14:9.

3. commission of someth. shameful, a shameful deed, pl. (Eur., Herc. 1423; Isocr. 14, 50; Aeschin. 1, 154; Jos., Ant. 4, 260) evpafri,zein ta.j aiv. casting up their shameful deeds like (waves casting up) foam Jd 13.—MKlopfenstein, Scham u. Schande nach d. AT, ’72.—B. 1141. DELG s.v. ai=scoj. M-M. TW.
(BDAG)

Shame in 1 Corinthians 11:13 is atimia which is akin to "shameful passions" (BDAG).

Perhaps the Holy Spiript used a different word there so people wouldn't confused "shame" from long hair to "shame" regarding our Lord's sufferings on the cross.

Also, we know from the Bible that the Lord did have a beard up until it was plucked out right before his crucifixtion. :tear:

But however, He arose again, and all is well. :thumbs:
 
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