Deacons and the Church

Yes I disagree as does scripture. To be consistent with scripture those men who do the things such as teaching and preaching need to be elevated to Elders and others need to be put in their place as deacons so as not to cloud the two different officies.

 

So what scripture do you have to back that up?

 

Read the text

 

So you cannot explain how you came to this conclusion?

 

Yes it is the text on deacons and elders

 

In becoming an "Elder" one is "elevated"?

While in becoming a "deacon" one is "put in their place"?

Really?

 

Yes, there is no doubt that there are different positions in God's rule and all are not of the same elevation.

 

Notice who was all concerned about "elevated position" in Scripture, and Who wasn't:

Luke 20:45-46
Then in the audience of all the people he said unto his disciples,
Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts;

Matthew 20:20ff
Then the mother of the sons of Zebedee came up to him with her sons, and kneeling before him she asked him for something. And he said to her, "What do you want?" She said to him, "Say that these two sons of mine are to sit, one at your right hand and one at your left, in your kingdom." . . . .And when the ten heard it, they were indignant at the two brothers. But Jesus called them to him and said, "You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones exercise authority over them. It shall not be so among you. But whoever would be great among you must be your servant, and whoever would be first among you must be your slave, even as the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many."

 

Wise words from Charles Spurgeon:

 

More wise words from the pages of Spurgeon's Sword and Trowel:

 

Charles WHO? Is this a newly found writer for the bible?

 

Both Stephen and Philip were deacons at FBC Jerusalem. Both preached and evangelized.

 

There is some merit in your view.

 

They did that outside the church. In the church they were table waiters

 

Just an observation here, that the apostles were the ones who suggested that FBC Jerusalem choose seven men--not the elders. Nowhere are Stephen, Philip and the other five called elders.

Further, Paul, in I Timothy 3, distinguishes between bishops (elders, pastors) and deacons.

 

The church was just getting started so there would be some things that are not set up yet, but that does not apply in a church today.

 

Think that the deacons were basically set up to be the 'staff" to assis t the Elders in each church , as they would be the ones designated to handle items like handling church mantenance, scheduling, the daily operation and function of the Church...

My question is does the Bible teach that JUST ELDERS are authority to preach./teach the Bible?

Does that mean ONLY pastors/Elders need apply, no deacons or laity?

 

Was the word "deacon" used in the Greek text? Someone once told me that Acts Ch 6 does not call these 7 men deacons.

Can you or somebody else clarify for me? My Greek-Fu is not good at all.

 

Greek term is diakonos, which in the bible mearly means "servant" of the Lord!

What is interesting is that the Apsotle paul in Phillipians 1:1 refers/address botht he elders/deacons in church as being the "Diakonos!"

 

Say what?

Philippians 1:1
Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons

Paul does not use the term elder at all here; he uses the more specific titles bishop and deacon.