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Delaware candidate Christine O'Donnell questions church and state separation

rbell

Active Member
I made the reply bold. But that alone shows great ignorance of the Constitution.

No, you are showing the ignorance. It's not in there, but for some reason, you keep ignoring that fact, and repeating your non-facts.


I really do not care which party a candidate belongs to, I do not want any person displaying such ignorance elected.


Absolutely, patently false (I'm being nice here). If a Dem makes a crazy statement, you trip all over yourself to either (a) ignore it; (b) explain it; or (c) your favorite, deflect it by changing the subject and trying to impugn Republicans for some unrelated matter.

As I said, you tell some whoppers on here, but none bigger than your statement above.
 

sag38

Active Member
Don't be nice. I don't like O'Donnell. But, what's being said about her is not true. If ever there was a case for someone's words being quoted out of context this is it. Someone should be ashamed for spreading a known lie.
Now I wonder what response I will get? It will be one of two:
I will be ignored or I be given a homework assignment?
An apology for spreading a lie would be in order but I'm not holding my breath.
 

HankD

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Don't be nice. I don't like O'Donnell. But, what's being said about her is not true. If ever there was a case for someone's words being quoted out of context this is it. Someone should be ashamed for spreading a known lie.
Now I wonder what response I will get? It will be one of two:
I will be ignored or I be given a homework assignment?
An apology for spreading a lie would be in order but I'm not holding my breath.

And it should be addressed to everyone in all the 57 states.

HankD
 

Crabtownboy

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Y'all can say that those who say O'Donnell was asking a question are spreading a lie .... but that is not the way the oh so conservative Washington Times see it. They, in their quote, put in a ? ... a question mark.

O'Donnell asked: "You're telling me that's in the First Amendment?"

"You actually audibly heard the crowd gasp," Widener University political scientist Wesley Leckrone said after the debate, adding that it raised questions about O'Donnell's grasp of the Constitution.

Erin Daly, a Widener professor who specializes in constitutional law, said that while there are questions about what counts as government promotion of religion, there is little debate over whether the First Amendment prohibits the federal government from making laws establishing religion.

"She seemed genuinely surprised that the principle of separation of church and state derives from the First Amendment, and I think to many of us in the law school that was a surprise," Daly said. "It's one thing to not know the 17th Amendment or some of the others, but most Americans do know the basics of the First Amendment."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/oct/19/odonnell-questions-separation-church-state/
 

targus

New Member
Y'all can say that those who say O'Donnell was asking a question are spreading a lie .... but that is not the way the oh so conservative Washington Times see it. They, in their quote, put in a ? ... a question mark.

Have you ever spoken with a live person?

Are you aware of such things as facial expressions? Inflection?

Are you aware that sentences were made prior to and after that sentence?

It's called CONTEXT.

You did not watch it.

I did.

You do not know what you are talking about.

BTW - just for your personal gratification and education - the phrase "seperation of church and state" is not in the Constitution.

She is right.
 

Aaron

Member
Site Supporter
Yes, she is right, but, as I said, she lacks savvy. Everyone is taught that the concept is there in the Constitution. So, when she thought she was being clever, it backfired on her. One must be oh so clever and subtle when dealing with serpents.

Jefferson's usage of the phrase had nothing to do with the meaning tacked to it today. His usage of the phrase was to assure churches that the Constitution would prohibit congress from establishing an official religion. That's it. It was not the creation of a secular state.
 

rbell

Active Member
Would you list some for us?

School officials censoring valedictorian speeches by students to remove "offensive" references to God. (take your pick--there's been a bunch; I had to threaten legal action against one school official years ago for that very issue).

Students in Colorado can't wear a cross necklace--but they can wear other jewelry (in the goofy ruling so far, they've decided to allow crosses...but rosaries are still off-limits...) :confused: No-I don't need rosaries...but banning them?

The abuse of the RICO law to specifically target pro-life protestors


Oh, I could go on, but you get the point. Maybe. Or not...
 

sag38

Active Member
Crabby is guilty of spreading a lie trying to destroy the reputation of an innocent person. It's low and despicable.
 

sag38

Active Member
"You actually audibly heard the crowd gasp," Widener University political scientist Wesley Leckrone said after the debate, adding that it raised questions about O'Donnell's grasp of the Constitution.

Only the morons gasped and her political enemies giggled at the opportunity to make this woman look dumb.
 

rbell

Active Member
I really do not care which party a candidate belongs to, I do not want any person displaying such ignorance elected.

Just reminding ya'll that Burger King apparently isn't the only "home of the Whopper."

I was responding to a request by another person to give my opinion on what separation of church and state should be ... I did not claim that what I posted is in the Constitution in those words.

Crabby's fitness tip: 20 minutes per day of backpedaling gives you strong, toned hamstrings.

What would you like to see in the Constitution?

Larger print? Apparently, our modern-day judges have problems reading it. I'm sure they're just having vision issues...certainly no one would willingly seek to curtail religious liberty. :rolleyes:
 

rbell

Active Member
Yes, she is right, but, as I said, she lacks savvy. One must be oh so clever and subtle when dealing with serpents.

I find this above statement offensive.

How dare you so brazenly insult serpents by comparing them to such.






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