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Dem. dictator after AR-15 Ammo

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by church mouse guy, Mar 2, 2015.

  1. church mouse guy

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    Expect .223 and 7.62 to be next.
     
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    I thought this type of 'armor-piercing' bullet was banned 40 some years ago for use in handguns, and now that there is a new handgun that can use these sized bullets made for an AR-15, the Obama administration is applying the ban to them.

    Is that correct? I'm not necessarily agreeing with Obama's actions I'm just trying to get clarification that this is not a new law or a presidential edict.
     
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    A top police representative on Tuesday said that there is no history of criminals using a round popular among AR-15 rifle shooters against officers, undermining the Obama administration's argument for banning the 5.56 M855 "lightgreen tip."

    "Any ammunition is of concern to police in the wrong hands, but this specific round has historically not posed a law enforcement problem," said James Pasco, executive director of the Washington office of the Fraternal Order of Police, the world's largest organization of sworn law enforcement officers, with more than 325,000 members.

    He told Secrets that the round used mostly for target practice "is not typically used against law enforcement."

    While he said that he is "not finding fault" with the surprise move last month by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to classify the round as "armor piercing" and then ban it, Pasco added, "While this round will penetrate soft body armor, it has not historically posed a threat to law enforcement."

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...at-countering-atf-white-house/article/2560964
     
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    Mostly correct. The key thing you mentioned was "new handgun that can use these sized bullets." Technically, it's not a new type of handgun. These "shorty" AR-15 weapons have been around for years.

    Instead of banning the ammunition that can be legally used in rifles, ban the handgun that can use the ammunition. You ban one type of handgun, minimal impact. Ban the ammunition that can be used in both that type of handgun and several types of rifles, and you've created an economic impact that affects ammunition and gun makers on a much wider scale.
     
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    Obama cannot get gun control through Congress so he is using his pen and phone to try to ban the ammo. Obama has a dictatorial personality.
     
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    EXCLUSIVE: Common AR-15 Green Tip Ammunition Already Banned in New ATF Regulation Guide

    UPDATE: ATF calls stripping ban exemption for AR-15 "green tip" ammunition a "publishing mistake." Read the full story here.

    Most importantly, if you're in possession of AR-15 "green tip" ammunition, legally you're good to go in most states and not in possession of "armor piercing" ammunition. Because of the "publishing error" in the 2014 Regulation Guide, ATF has advised FFL's and others to reference the 2005 Regulation Guidebook, where the ammunition is still exempted.

    Despite ATF saying there's "nothing to analyze here folks," this simple "publishing mistake" deserves scrutiny. Considering the Office of Management and Budget must approve new Regulation Guides, which come out approximately every 10 years, are difficult to change and take months to review, that's quite the "publishing mistake." As ATF references, the exemption for AR-15 "green tip" ammunition is in the 2005 ATF Regulation Guide. For this "publishing mistake" to occur, someone would have had to delete an entire section from the guide, which just happens to be the section about ammunition the Obama administration is currently trying to ban.

    Continue . . . http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2015/03/07/atf-calls-stripping-exemption-for-ar15-green-tip-ammo-a-publishing-mistake-n1967168
     
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