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Democratic Presidential Hypocrites

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Pastor Larry, Apr 26, 2007.

  1. Pastor Larry

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    The Democratic presidential contenders will meet tonight in a debate at South Carolina State University, sponsored by MSNBC. Recently, some of these same same contenders refused to participate in debates sponsored by Fox News.

    Why is this strange? Because South Carolina State U (a historically black college that gets public money) recently did something Fox News has never done. SCSU tolerated the use of the N-word more than 100 times in a recent concert on the campus. To my knowledge, Fox News has never tolerated the use of the word in any context.

    Why would these Democratic contenders turn down a Fox while appearing at SCSU? Perhaps because they care more about politics than race and racial epithets. Fox is seen as a conservative news channel (though I dare anyone to suggest that Sean Hannity is more conservative the Keith Olberman is liberal). By appearing in a Fox sponsored debate, they fear they would be seen as giving into Fox's perspective and giving Fox credibility. But somehow, when racial epithets are involved, it's less important because it's MSNBC and not Fox. It seems shameful and hypocritical to me.

    Don't get me wrong. The Republicans are hardly saints. In six years of a Republican White House and Congress, spending grew at what seems unprecedented rates, as did government bureaucracy. Corruption in government continues (cf. Duke Cunningham, Peter Abramoff, et al). And abortion continues unabated with the exception of the Partial Birth Abortion Ban which is a tiny step in the right direction. In a world of hypocrites, Republicans have little high ground.

    But let's face it: If the repeated use of a racial epithet is not enough to drive you away from a debate site, why is being sponsored by Fox News enough to drive you away? Because politics is more important than racial justice.

    Shame on all eleven of these contenders, not because they are liberal politicians, but because they have not spoken up on this travesty.

    It will be interesting if any of these eleven do what many said George Bush should have done six years ago when speaking at Bob Jones U. They said Bush should have spoken out about the institution's policy of race and religious differences. Will any of these eleven speak out about SCSU's policy of tolerating and thereby encouraging the repeated use of racial epithets?

    I would not hold your breath.
     
  2. Bro. Curtis

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    So are they now admitting that all the other news media sources are liberal ?

    After the Wellstone memorial, I know the Democrat party has no shame.
     
  3. Terry_Herrington

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    Unfair, but expected, both from you and Larry.
     
  4. StraightAndNarrow

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    Because Fox News has historically been terrifically biased towards the far right.
     
  5. Pastor Larry

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    I can't help but notice you didn't address the point of the seeming hypocrisy. Do you think it is okay for the Democratic party to support a school that allows the use of racial epithets?
     
  6. Pastor Larry

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    Which also misses the point (and that does not even address whether this statement is actually true). Do you think it is okay for the Democratic party to support a school that allows the use of racial epithets?

    You see, I think it is wrong to use racial epithets and I think it is wrong to support those who do. I think it is hypocritical to refuse to debate on Fox (where you could actually reach an audience who may not yet agree with you) while debating on the campus of a school who allows the use of racial epithets far worse than what Don Imus said. (And he was wrong.)

    In a debate on Fox, you would have the opportunity to refute conservatism live without fear of being edited. How can that be bad? I think their refusal to debate on Fox shows that they are cowards. I think their willingness to debate at SCSU shows that they are spineless and without principle.
     
  7. hillclimber1

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    No partner, balanced. It only looks right wing if your a leftist.
     
  8. Terry_Herrington

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    I can't let this go unchallenged.

    Fox News is so RIGHT-WING they could serve as Bush's <inappropriate comment deleted LE>.
     
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    Could it be that these candidates would be afraid to answer questions by FOX News reporters?

    The local talk radio host here in Syracuse wanted to interview Hillary Clinton. She wanted a list of the questions to be asked. Joe said he does not do interviews that way. She never accepted.

    Another talk show host ( on WFB AM) did a "group interview" via phone with Hillary. There was a questions he asked her (I forget the ?) she refused to answer. He then was cut off from the conservation.

    Bill sent a copy of that tape to Laura Ingharam and Bill O'riley and they played it severa times on their shows

    Salty
     
  10. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    No. while I do think they work to avoid actual hard questions this is not about that. This is a tactic to undermine Fox because they have numbers that cannot be matched by any of the liberal media. And they can't stand it. What the Consrvatives should do is to not go on liberal stations which would include everyone else.
     
  11. KenH

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    Candidates for the presidency should do like Congressman Ron Paul - answer all questions from anyone. I've never heard him dodge a question yet.
     
  12. hillclimber1

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    I stand by my statement. You are so far left, Fox looks right.

    Fair and balanced
     
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    Any one watch the dullocrats last night? They beat them selves up trying to convince the country they would be the first to surrender.
     
  14. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    Yes and once again Obama had no answers, and Clinton still cannot admitt being wrong and still sounds liek fingernails on a chalk board. I found it interesting that Edwards was asked about his wealth but no one else.
     
  15. Shiloh

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    By JIM KUHNHENN
    Associated Press Writer

    April 26, 2007, 6:44 PM EDT

    WASHINGTON -- A flock of small jets took flight from Washington Thursday, each carrying a Democratic presidential candidate to South Carolina for the first debate of the political season.

    For Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barack Obama, Chris Dodd and Joe Biden, it was wheels up shortly after they voted in favor of legislation requiring that U.S. troops begin returning home from Iraq in the fall.

    No one jet pooled, no one took commercial flights to save money, fuel or emissions.

    The party of do as I say not as I do!
     
  16. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    What ever happened to good old jet pooling?
     
  17. Filmproducer

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    Ummm hello... The Chairman and CEO of Fox, Roger Ailes "jokingly" confused Barak Obama with Osama Bin Laden. Now, to my knowledge, the use of the n word, although it was offensive, was not targeted to any specific person.

    Call me crazy but Fox made their own bed. I wouldn't participate in their debate either. Childish name calling should not be tolerated by politicians and especially not media moguls. let's leave the comedy to the actual comedians.
     
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    What an amazing set of posts. Here we are, debating which is more righteous, the Democrats or Republicans. They are both scum that has preyed on the American people and ripped them off long enough. Pastor Larry, you give a brief paragraph on how evil Republicans are, then proceed to give several paragraphs of how evil Democrats are, implying they are worse. They are both the same, self serving, power hungry pigs, that have no interest in the Constitution or the American people.

    Both sides ought to be ashamed on a Christian board assigning any degree of one better than the other. That goes double for those in leadership positions.
     
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    :laugh::laugh::laugh:

    Talk about selective indignation.
     
  20. Filmproducer

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    Just why are you accusing me of selective indignation? I have stated many, many, many times that I DO NOT agree with the use of the n word in mainstream entertainment, i.e, music, movies, magazines, etc. Didn't realize I had to spell it out again.

    I was just pointing out why the dems did not participate in a Fox debate. Seems pretty clear to me. Ailes should have kept his mouth shut because he has a tendency to speak without thinking.....
     
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