Despite economy, Americans don't want farm work

[FR7 Baptist]

I am aware that you are a full time college student.

That temporary job that you worked was pretty much part time and mostly during the summer when you were not in school.

Are you currently looking for and willing to accept full time employment while still in school?

If not - would it be right to try to collect unemployment if you really aren't looking for a full time job anyway?

I worked full time for the majority of the operations. No, I'm not looking for full-time work as of now. I could run into a situation where, if I don't find a job this semester, I will have to drop to part-time in college. If I do that, I will look for full-time employment. I would only apply for unemployment if I'm available for full-time employment. Currently, I'm only looking for part-time. I would, however, accept a full-time job if that's all I can find and then drop to part-time college anyways. But, no, in addition to the base period issue, I am not currently eligible for unemployment because I'm not available for full-time work at this time.

 

[billwald]

These days every job is temporary unless one has a personal contract.

 

[Steven2006]

Lazy people aren't going to work as long as the government is giving them handouts. Why sweat in the fields when our tax dollars are paying them to sit at home? Why sweat in the fields for $10 an hour when you can earn more on unemployment?

I am not sure that argument works. Unemployment is limited. There are many people who are not receiving benefits, and have no work. They still aren't moving around the country for seasonal work picking fruit/vegetables.

 

[NiteShift]

Obviously.

The difference is that they will and we won't.

Speak for yourself DW. When I was young I worked at jobs probably as hard as this. And before growers got hooked on unlimited illegal labor, someone did the work. I wonder who?

 

[targus]

Speak for yourself DW. When I was young I worked at jobs probably as hard as this. And before growers got hooked on unlimited illegal labor, someone did the work. I wonder who?

When I was a kid in highschool I traveled to nothern Michigan and lived in cabins for eight weeks each summer so that I could work for $25 a week.

Why wouldn't innercity teens benefit from the same type of experience today?

 

[dwmoeller1]

Speak for yourself DW. When I was young I worked at jobs probably as hard as this. And before growers got hooked on unlimited illegal labor, someone did the work. I wonder who?

Sheesh on crackers! Can no one recognize a generalization and treat it as such?

Myself, I grew up in Iowa. I paid for a my college expenses by working in the fields during the summer - often at or close to minimum wage. So clearly I am not speaking for myself either. It was a generalization - one that is supported by the facts. Not a judgement - simply the facts of the matter. We (white Americans) don't (as a general rule), they (latino immigrants) do (as a general rule). In the past such a generalization was not true. Today it is.

As to growers getting hooked on unlimited illegal labor, could it be that our decreasing willingness to do such work contributed to the influx of illegal labor?

 

[targus]

As to growers getting hooked on unlimited illegal labor, could it be that our decreasing willingness to do such work contributed to the influx of illegal labor?

What is the source of this unwillingness to do such work?

I see the source as:

A welfare state mentality - "I deserve a lifestyle without having to work - the government owes it to me"

Racism - "That work is for those type of people - not me"

An excessively materalistic society - "Those jobs don't pay enough to get me the things that I want so it is not worth doing"

 

[matt wade]

Hey...here's an idea. Maybe we can send Paul over to let them know they will be eligible for unemployment benefits after they complete their temporary farm work?

 

[FR7 Baptist]

Racism - "That work is for those type of people - not me"

What race is that racist against?

 

[targus]

What race is that racist against?

The sterotype is that migrant farm work is good enough for Hispanics - but not good enough for other races.

 

[webdog]

It is your fault. If you didn't purposely sign on at a job that you knew would be going away, you wouldn't get laid off.

Good grief...you are pitiful and a perfect example of the lazy, "think the world owes them everything"-youngster of today.

You are completely out of line. When there are no jobs to work at, and a temp job is the only one there...do you pass it up because you know that it MIGHT end (not all temp jobs do end, some go permanent)? I'm sick of people like you and those on this thread who lump the unemployed in with welfare recipients and call them "lazy". News flash...unemployed people WERE ONCE EMPLOYED, some for many years at the same company before this economy went sour, and older to boot. How dare you call anyone in that boat lazy!!


As to address the OP, what is 10.25 in California terms...like 3.00 an hour in the northeast?!? How many here holding Masters degrees would work this job and not try to find similar work in their line of field? You all talk a good talk, but when (not if) it happens to you, come back and tell me how that works out.

 

[webdog]

It was a TEMPORARY JOB.

You knew that going in.

Did you expect to make a career out of a TEMPORARY JOB?

You have outed yourself as part of the entitlement crowd.

How...because he actually took a job? Would it have been better to just not work? You talk out of both sides of your mouth.

 

[webdog]

I am aware that you are a full time college student.

That temporary job that you worked was pretty much part time and mostly during the summer when you were not in school.

Are you currently looking for and willing to accept full time employment while still in school?

If not - would it be right to try to collect unemployment if you really aren't looking for a full time job anyway?

Here you show your ignorance of UI benefits. A full time student is eligible for UI benefits.

 

[abcgrad94]

I am not sure that argument works. Unemployment is limited. There are many people who are not receiving benefits, and have no work. They still aren't moving around the country for seasonal work picking fruit/vegetables.

True. I am wondering why local folks aren't doing the farm labor, not people from out of state.

 

[webdog]

True. I am wondering why local folks aren't doing the farm labor, not people from out of state.

Probably because it only pays 10.25 in California. That is the value equivalent to half of minimum wage in Ohio.

 

[targus]

How...because he actually took a job? Would it have been better to just not work? You talk out of both sides of your mouth.

He accepted knowingly and willingly a temporary job - which is great .

But please do not pretend that a job going door to door counting people was ever going to be anything but temporary.

To then expect to collect unemployment because the temporary job actually turned out to be temporary is beyond the pale.

 

[targus]

Here you show your ignorance of UI benefits. A full time student is eligible for UI benefits.

Actually - your's is showing.

Conditions for UI benefits are set by the State and are therefore different from State to State.

In some States a full time student could be eligible and in some not.

Unemployment should be for those who are seeking and able to work - not kids in school looking for free money when they have no intention of accepting a job. - not saying that is what Paul 3144 is doing.

 

[targus]

Probably because it only pays 10.25 in California. That is the value equivalent to half of minimum wage in Ohio.

Isn't the Ohio minimum wage $7.30?

So $10.25 in California is like $3.65 in Ohio?

Food, rent, clothes, utilities in California are almost 3 times higher than they are in Ohio?

Really?

 

[matt wade]

You are completely out of line. When there are no jobs to work at, and a temp job is the only one there...do you pass it up because you know that it MIGHT end (not all temp jobs do end, some go permanent)? I'm sick of people like you and those on this thread who lump the unemployed in with welfare recipients and call them "lazy". News flash...unemployed people WERE ONCE EMPLOYED, some for many years at the same company before this economy went sour, and older to boot. How dare you call anyone in that boat lazy!!

Calm down and chill out. I'm not out of line and you are just spouting at the mouth and sounding like a fool. If you would actually try and comprehend what you read, I never said he shouldn't take the job. My problem with what he was talking about was that he would like to have collect unemployment benefits for a job that he knew was temporary going into it. Of course, if you took the time to actually read things here, you would know that.

Another thing you would know, if you had any skills at reading comprehension, was that I didn't call unemployed people lazy. I was speaking about a particular type of youngster in the world today. The quote of the type I was talking about is:

the lazy, "think the world owes them everything"-youngster of today

Anyone with even a basic level of reading comprehension can see that I didn't call the unemployed lazy.

 

[FR7 Baptist]

The sterotype is that migrant farm work is good enough for Hispanics - but not good enough for other races.

That's true, but Hispanic origin is not a race.