Was the hotel correct in firing Sean?
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Did this dress code go to far
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mcdirector
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When I heard it on the news - this part stuck out to me then too
I may think he should get to wear it, but the rules clearly said he wasn't to do so.
I deal with this kind of stuff at school every day - I'm just a little out of dress code. I was only whispering during the test. My cell phone was in my hand but it was off.
I may think he should get to wear it, but the rules clearly said he wasn't to do so.
I deal with this kind of stuff at school every day - I'm just a little out of dress code. I was only whispering during the test. My cell phone was in my hand but it was off.
In this problem covered in his union contract????? <G>
Does anyone want to claim this is a free speech dispute?
DON'T employers in Florida the right to set any dress code that at least covers one's "private" parts and meets OSHA rules?
I'm glad that I retired before this "American Flag" patriotism caught on.
Does anyone want to claim this is a free speech dispute?
DON'T employers in Florida the right to set any dress code that at least covers one's "private" parts and meets OSHA rules?
I'm glad that I retired before this "American Flag" patriotism caught on.
Of course they were correct. They stated their policy clearly, he violated it, then refused to correct his violation after being asked too.
I'd have fired him too. By accepting employment, he accepted those rules and accepting being under the authority of those who enforce the rules. He can't turn around and decide not to do so anymore and expect to remain employed.
So hey, JOB OPENING! At least he gave someone else a chance at getting a job in this tough economy. I hope someone who really needs the money gets hired. He obviously didn't need the money bad enough if he was willing to risk his job over not being allowed to wear a pin on his shirt. (betcha anything the pin was made in China anyhow)
I suppose it can be said he violated the policies that governed his employment, but if he worked for me I would have cut him some slack.
According to the article - he had worn it for two years.
At his interview with the media - he was not wearing his pin?
Could be there is more to the story
I admit to having just skimmed the article, but I must confess I wondered what the backstory was that wasn't being told.
Don't feel bad - nice little trick of the media.
I listen to both Glenn Beck and Stephanie Miller.
Its interesting what is not being said - more often than not, only one side is the norm for Stephanie.
I'm not done talking, had to post again because I read more and that guy really annoys me!
I wonder if he was doing "DOH" and slapping himself upside the head for forgetting to wear what it during his interview. LOL It's so vitally important in his life that he wears it wear he isn't supposed to but now where he's allowed? HMMM Could this be another attention seeking drama queen who may also want to sit on his tail and collect money from a lawsuit against the people who have been generous enough to provide him with the opportunity to earn a living/
Now he suddenly says "Why would I want to work for a company that isn't going to be supportive of what I believe in?" Here's the link to where he said that:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ng-American-flag-lapel-pin.html#ixzz1bBnCD3bZ
Well, he took the job. Why did he take it and then violate the policy for two years? Why did he work for them before? His only belief that they disagree with is that he believes he should be able to wear his policy-violating pin to work. Seriously? What a joke!
Who is he to imply they don't support patriotism? They state all customers are greeted with the flag. That tells me they aren't against being patriotic. They're against wearing pins on the job and made that clear in their policy.
It really took him two years to come to the conclusion that they don't believe in the same thing he does and say he doesn't want to work for them because of that? Why didn't he just quit then, rather than get himself fired?
I know plenty of veterans who now hold jobs in Wal-Mart, grocery stores, as security guards, etc., and don't violate the dress code.
I hate that there are vets and such out there acting all outraged and saying this is a violation of freedom. What about the freedom and rights of the employer to make rules in his/her place of business and enforce them? If someone is paying you, do NOT disrespect them by refusing to do what you agreed to do when they were kind enough to give you a job so you could provide for your family.
It's a pin. If you want to be patriotic, support the freedom and right of your employer to decide the dress code they want to have in their place of business. If you want to be patriotic, keep your stinkin' job so you can support yourself and your family!
Of all things. I hope he isn't married. If my husband came home and told me there's no next paycheck and he got himself fired for something so trivial, well, let's just say he better be smart enough not to come home for quite a long time. I'd be beyond steamed.
I wonder if he was doing "DOH" and slapping himself upside the head for forgetting to wear what it during his interview. LOL It's so vitally important in his life that he wears it wear he isn't supposed to but now where he's allowed? HMMM Could this be another attention seeking drama queen who may also want to sit on his tail and collect money from a lawsuit against the people who have been generous enough to provide him with the opportunity to earn a living/
Now he suddenly says "Why would I want to work for a company that isn't going to be supportive of what I believe in?" Here's the link to where he said that:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ng-American-flag-lapel-pin.html#ixzz1bBnCD3bZ
Well, he took the job. Why did he take it and then violate the policy for two years? Why did he work for them before? His only belief that they disagree with is that he believes he should be able to wear his policy-violating pin to work. Seriously? What a joke!
Who is he to imply they don't support patriotism? They state all customers are greeted with the flag. That tells me they aren't against being patriotic. They're against wearing pins on the job and made that clear in their policy.
It really took him two years to come to the conclusion that they don't believe in the same thing he does and say he doesn't want to work for them because of that? Why didn't he just quit then, rather than get himself fired?
I know plenty of veterans who now hold jobs in Wal-Mart, grocery stores, as security guards, etc., and don't violate the dress code.
I hate that there are vets and such out there acting all outraged and saying this is a violation of freedom. What about the freedom and rights of the employer to make rules in his/her place of business and enforce them? If someone is paying you, do NOT disrespect them by refusing to do what you agreed to do when they were kind enough to give you a job so you could provide for your family.
It's a pin. If you want to be patriotic, support the freedom and right of your employer to decide the dress code they want to have in their place of business. If you want to be patriotic, keep your stinkin' job so you can support yourself and your family!
Of all things. I hope he isn't married. If my husband came home and told me there's no next paycheck and he got himself fired for something so trivial, well, let's just say he better be smart enough not to come home for quite a long time. I'd be beyond steamed.
I can only plead jet lag.:laugh:
Sapper Woody
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If the policy was no pins, buttons, etc, then it was wrong of him to wear it. He knew this, and was even given chance to take it off. Although there is nothing inherently wrong with wearing an American flag lapel pin, it was wrong of him to willingly disobey his employer's policy.
"It's never right to do wrong in order to do right."
"It's never right to do wrong in order to do right."