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Do muslims also worship God, just in a wrong way?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Abd al-masih, Jan 4, 2020.

  1. Abd al-masih

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    Given that "Allah" is just the Arabic word for God, is it fair to say that Muslims also worship God, just in the wrong way. I am not endorsing Islam, of course Islam is a false religion that leads to Hell, but should we view Islam as a heresy, which worships God in a wrong way?
     
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    It denies that Jesus is the Son of God and as the Lord, denies he died for sinners, denied resurrected, so is really revelation from Satan, as believe Satan appeared to Muhammad in that cave!
     
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    Funny that, I was going to inquire if the new guy was JD, but doubtful he would admit it now, heh. Why are you pitching for Ken here?!
     
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    Zeus is derived from dieus (god). Did Roman pagans worship God when they worshipped Zeus?
     
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    As Creator God, he is the same; however, he is misrepresented in the Quran. Islam is not a standalone religion but a Christian heresy based on the Bible, that is, on both the OT and NT having significant errors. Without Christianity, without the Bible, there could be no Islam.

    In contrast, Christianity is the continuance, the fulfillment of what was entrusted to the Hebrews. As such, Christianity is dependent on the OT being the inspired word of God. Without it, there is no Christianity.
     
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    Islam shall be thoroughly discredited in the approaching Ezekiel's war. The Islamic nations, in the Gog-Magog alliance, will come in the confidence and name of their false god Allah. Hopefully most, if not all remaining Muslims, shall flee this cult once the nations know that God defended Israel in the Gog-Magog war. As prophecied that these nations will know that God defended Israel and why Israel had been previously driven from their land by God. My hope is that many fleeing Islam shall continue to seek God and find Jesus Christ.
     
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    The Muslims claim so.
    Surah 29:46:
    O Muslims! Do not argue with the People of the Book except in the best of ways, save with such of them who are unjust; and say: “We believe in that which has been sent down to us and that which has been [sent] down to you; our God and your God is One, and to Him we surrender.”

    But no their God is fundamentally different. Muslims are similar to us in a sense. Mohammed stole alot from the Christians and Jews. But it's not the same God as they don't see three persons. They don't believe in the Trinity. (Part of this reason is that Mohammed thought the Trinity was the Father, Mary and the son). We can't worship the same God, because we worship Christ who is God and they don't. To worship the same God as they do we would have to restrict our worship, which is something we can't do. James White wrote a great book on Muslims called "What Every Christian needs to know about the Qur'an."
     
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    Mohammed did not have the true God talk to him regarding Islam, as that being denies Jesus of the scriptures, and so that mean he was speaking to spirit of antichrist, Satan Himself!
     
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    I disagree. Muhammed, who was 54 when he honeymooned with 9-year old Aleisha, PBUH was illiterate & he borrowed from the Jews & from pagan Arab tribal customs as well as scrambling some Christian stuff. The Quran is full of scientific error such as the sun sets in a muddy pool. So Muhammad was a barbarian warlord who left a political military system with a cuckoo theological veneer. Allah, Milton noted, is another name for Satan.

    Mormonism is a shadow of Islam in cruelty and depravity.
     
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    Well, it is a sticky wicket. I had a much longer response, but the bottom line is that Allah is the Arab word for God, and Arab Christians worship Allah, though their minds have been (and are being) transformed to understand who God really is, just like with Saul/Paul, and with us all.

    Part of my original point was that understanding God as Creator God is correct, but he is much more than that, and also not a lot of things some say about him, including Islam.

    Also, for example, it was the Hebrews, not the Arabs, that preserved the historical origins of both peoples in their writings. Without that, there would be no claim of Ishmael as the true son of Abraham, the one preserved from sacrifice, etc.
     
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    "Stay away from Islam" Apostate Prophet on YouTube Apostate Prophet
     
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    Ken was live at the time and playing some good music so I plugged him.

    To save money, we should shut down our embassies in dangerous Muslim countries--do you agree or disagree? Or we could do to them what we did to the Germans, that is, we sent a homosexual to Germany. We could send feminists to Muslim countries, lol.
     
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    Heresy implies that they are Christians with a different opinion than others. This is not true.

    There is only one verse which Mohammed quotes from the Bible - an eye for an eye. He takes some of the names from the Bible but even those he gets wrong. Otherwise there are no similarities between Islam’s Allah and the Bible’s “Allah”.

    Islam could easily exist without the Bible which, in fact, it does. All of Islam’s beliefs come from a need to satisfy Mohammed’s needs - not from any other religious background.
     
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    No. They worship a false God of their own making.
     
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    Christianity is a "the only way" belief. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

    Now there are professing Christians who believe in compulsion, just like some did in the Dark Ages. Islam has been spread by the sword, either profess Allah or die. Some believe it is OK to kill the infidels. We can find a similar, but of course watered down, view within the body of professing Christians. The Speaker of the House claims to be a faithful Catholic, yet votes for bills that enable abortion.

    The common thread is compulsion, you either treat others as you want to be treated, or you think truth is on your side and it is OK to compel or force others to submit to your views. Why does the godless left hate the bible so much? Because the bedrock fundamental is that freedom is better than slavery, which is antithima to dictatorial elitist who love to tell others how they should think.
     
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    Van, the left is in a political alliance with Islam trying to destroy Christianity, as you know. Mohammed PBUH emphasized his whiteness & said that Satan looked like a black man and that a black man would destroy Mecca. He owned black slaves. All of these actually appeals to white liberal leftists.
     
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    You only have to look at any mosque and see which God Islam worships. Allah was the pagan Arab moon god.
     
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    The Allah worshipping Muslim's reward is satanic carnal indulgence. Virtually exactly as was the Baal worshipping Moabites under Balak, and seen again in Ahab's perverse reign of the Northern Tribes of Israel under the influence of his Baal worshipping wife Jezebel. And addressed again in the Revelation concerning the Church at Thyatira. You see, old Satan has been quite constant down through the ages of using the lure of carnal indulgence to separate man from the pursuit of worshipping God in spirit and in truth.
     
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    Or maybe not.

    I would not call God "Allah" when speaking in English just as I would not call Him "Theos," nor would I expect those speaking Arabic or Greek to call Him "God."

    Also, I would not stop calling God "God," just because some cult started completely misrepresenting him but kept using the term "God."

    Similarly, Arab Christians were calling God "Allah" in Arabic several centuries before Muhammad was born. For Arab worshipers, "Allah" is the correct term for God.

    Allah” is the Arabic word for “God” and has been so long before the existence of Islam. Long before the Arabic false prophet Muhammad was born, the name Allah was used by both Jews and Arab Christians to refer to the one true god.​

    https://christiananswers.net/q-eden/allah.html

    Allah Does not Belong to Islam - Christian Research Institute
     
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