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Do you believe only the members of your faith go to heaven?

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  1. Ruth

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    This is a serious question; no flames please. I am asking for your PERSONAL opinion, whether or not it is the doctrine as expounded by your faith. Also please give your reason for believing either way.

    I will state my opinion after others have the chance to answer. Thanks!

    Ruth
     
  2. g_1933

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    I believe that to go to heaven one must do what God says to do! Believe in the Son of God (John 3:16, Romans 10:9,10, I John 5:13,14, John 14:6)
    It does not matter what "faith" you are but there is only one right answer. The only saving faith, is faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
     
  3. weeping prophet

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    Just wanted this one to be posted twice.WP
     
  4. Frank

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    Ruth:
    The Bible teaches that salvation is in Christ Jesus.( IITim. 2:10).Once one is in Christ he must be found faithful to the Lord to reach eternal glory. ( Rev. 2:10). The most precious and uplifting words heard in the day of judgement will be " well done thou good and faithful servant enter into the joy of the Lord." ( Mat.25:23).
    In conclusion, the Bible teaches us we must be in Christ and live faithfully to his instructions to receive the crown of life.( John 12:48, II Tim. 4:6-8).
     
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    Absolutely not. I go where I go because I have
    not found better, so I believe it to be right;
    however, I believe that our God has many
    good people in many places, many of whom
    are on Baptist Board.

    [ October 11, 2002, 12:39 PM: Message edited by: Abiyah ]
     
  6. Ruth

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    I understand what you are saying, Frank, but this is not really what I was asking. Let me expand a little: do you personally think that only those people who believe the same thing you do are going to go to heaven? I looked at your profile and found no church affiliation listed, so possibly this is the source of the confusion. For those of you with no formal church affiliation, please respond according to your personal beliefs. Thanks!

    Ruth
     
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    No. NO.
    I believe God has His people from all nations and all ages.
    He has His own among the heathen, the pagans, the cannibals, the Muslims, the Roman Catholics, the communists, the Baptists (very especially), and in any faith.
     
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    All I know and have been constantly emphasizing that God WILL SAVE ALL HIS CHILDREN and not lose a one. That is the basis of the Primitive Baptist belief and mine. God know who they are and that is all that matters. What a reunion!... Brother Glen [​IMG]
     
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    Well, Pauls says we're not to judge a man's salvation, so I'm not to bold to think my brethren are the only ones who will be there.

    But I know that the people I worship with are faithful to CHrist, and are therefore heaven bound.
     
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    Ruth:
    I am a christian. It is the name God named Is. 62:2 and Acts 11:26. I am not confussed as my faith is based on the New Testament of Jesus Christ. My personal position is stated by what was posted from the scriptures. The real confussion is in answering how does one get into Christ. Again, the confussion lies in the opinions of men ,not the word of God.
     
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    I believe, because the Bible teaches, that anyone who does not believe, from his heart, that God raised Jesus from the dead and does not confess with his mouth the Lord Jesus Christ, will not go to heaven. It is very sad to think that anyone would not believe these things, but I fear that many don't. Like, Islam denys the ressurection of Jesus. I would be untrue to what I believe, if I did not assent to what scripture teaches. What about Judas Iscariot, do you think he went to heaven? I mourn that any should be left out, but I am sure that without faith in Jesus Christ, they will be. bless you WP
     
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    There a number of things I believe that many of the members of the church I attend do not, but I do not think it is mandatory that they believe what I do. They are good Christian people who I expect to see in God's kingdom.
    The criteria is not everyone believing exactly all the same things, but whether they believe on Jesus, regardless of denomination.
    What I see is a division of Christians between those who will be called "great" in the kingdom of heaven, and those who will be called "least" in the Kingdom.
    Me? I don't want to be at the head of the line, I just want to be IN line.

    PP
     
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    My church does not teach that only members of our denomination qualify as saints.

    But I will go you one better.

    In Romans 2 13-16 Paul addresses those who are without God's Word who do "INSTINCTIVELY the things of the Word of God".. and then shows them to be covered by the New Covenant promise of Heb 8. Here he is not arguing in favor of the "story" that they have, but rather in favor of the changed life INSPITE of no basis for right theology.

    Paul argues that even THEY are saved.

    Many Christian groups seem to object to that idea.

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
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    Thanks for your replies. I appreciate the time you took to respond. As for myself, I am also firmly in the camp which says that the only requirement for salvation and the knowledge that I will go to heaven is to accept Jesus as Lord, and ask him to forgive our sins. I have friends from many, many denominations, and their faith is as strong as any I have seen in my own church. We like to think that our personal choice of church is the RIGHT way - but to be honest, if you have accepted Christ into your life, all of the rest is just window dressing!

    Frank, I have one more question for you. From your statement of faith, I take it that you do not belong to any particular denomination. I also noticed that you stated that it takes a lifelong commitment to doing exactly what the Bible says; does this mean you do not accept the principle of "once saved, always saved"? I personally have experienced times in my life where I "backslid" into a lifestyle that did not include God as part of my daily life, and I suspect it happens to just about everyone at one point or another. Had I died during that period, do you believe that I would not have gone to heaven? Thanks for being so patient with me.

    Ruth
     
  16. BobRyan

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    Matt 18 (last half of the chapter) provides a clear example of "forgivenes revoked" just as Ezekiel 18 shows justification revoked.

    It is difficult to argue the OSAS - Once-saved always saved case in light of these facts.

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
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    In Romans 2 13-16 Paul addresses those who are without God's Word who do "INSTINCTIVELY the things of the Word of God".. and then shows them to be covered by the New Covenant promise of Heb 8. Here he is not arguing in favor of the "story" that they have, but rather in favor of the changed life INSPITE of no basis for right theology.

    Wow, that was a really light buld going on for me. It seems when Jesus said that there were many romms in his father's house, he wasn't kidding! I'm happy leaving the final disposition for the heavenbound up to God instead of up to me or my church.
     
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    The great key to heaven's gate is held by One; the Lord Jesus Christ. There is no other Way, ever. It was so in the Old Testament, it was true in the New Testament and it will be true for all time. Outside of Jesus, there is no hope.

    I am a Baptist only by name and affiliation. My wife is Anglican. We sometimes paddle the ship with different strokes, but we are in the same sea. Christ is at the helm.

    If by "other faiths" you mean Islam, Judaism, and other such religions, I am also clear that without the blood of Jesus there is no admittance, and therefore the people perish. The bible may leave us cloudy in some doctrines, but on this one thing it is quite clear. If this is not the case, then Jesus, the Christ, died in vain, and we are without hope of passage anywhere.

    Cheers in the Lord,

    Jim
     
  20. John Croce

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    Amen and Amen.
     
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