Featured Dr Boettner and The Offer of the Gospel

Well, other than the correct way.

 

WILLIAM A BRAKEL

(17th Century Dutch Theologian)

There is a general and unconditional declaration to all, that is, to him who thirsts, who is without money, and who wills (Isa. 55:1–2; John 7:37; Rev. 22:17). He who neither wills nor is thirsty will refrain from coming. This is his own doing and he will be responsible, having been invited and having heard this general calling. Since many reject the gospel, it is necessarily offered to them, for whatever is not offered cannot be rejected. "It was necessary that the Word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles" (Acts 13:46). Many are disobedient to the gospel (2 Th. 1:8), and are disobedient to the Son (John 3:36). It thus follows that Christ was offered to them and they were commanded to believe in Christ. (The Christian's Reasonable Service)

 

Because God commands it.

So God is dishonest for offering salvation to those who He knows will reject it?

So God is insincere for offering salvation to those He knows will reject it?

We understand that salvation is of the Lord, not of ourselves. I think it may be you who is wearing the blinkers. The blinkers of humanism, that seems to think man can add his own innate faith (which doesn't exist) to the finished work of Christ on the cross. Was the work of salvation finished on the cross, or did you have to add something to it?

 

So you think God is wrong to offer salvation through the gospel to those He knows will reject it?

 

No, this is bible. Do you believe, as the bible says, that Jesus said "It is finished" on the cross, or do you believe it was not finished and you have to add something to His work on the cross in order to be saved?

 

So you don't add anything to it! Good! Now we are getting somewhere! You don't add your faith. You don't add your repentance, you don't add your obedience. You add NOTHING! Salvation is all of God and none of you.

Glad to see you have finally seen the light!

 

But you said it was wrong for people to go to hell for rejecting Christ, didn't you? God offers salvation to all, but those who reject it go to hell. So, according to you, because God knew they were going to reject the offer and go to hell, He is wrong.

So far, so good.

And this is where you have fallen for the Devil's lie. You say some of them come to drink but Jesus tells them it will do no good. The truth is that they refuse to come. They do not want to drink. They are not thirsty. They think his offer is a joke.

No, Andy, that is not what Particular Redemption teaches. What you have said is the deception straight out of the pit of hell.

Please, do two things for me. First, don't accuse God of being a liar. We all know that it is the Devil who is the liar and the father of lies.

Second don't accuse those of us who acknowledge the Sovereignty of God in Salvation and believe that "it is finished" of believing something we don't believe.

You have demonstrated clearly that you have no real understanding of monergism.

Scroll up to where I corrected your error of understanding. You said some of them who come will be told by Jesus, "sorry, you can drink of it, but in your case you will not live forever, as it is not really meant for ALL of you!!!"

You see, Andy, that is the Devil's lie. Nobody who comes will be turned away. All those who the Father draws will come and will be raised up on the last day.

Those who reject won't come. They don't want to come. They don't recognize their own thirst nor the value of the water being offered. And it is those who God knew before would reject, who remain in their sin. It is not God's fault they reject and blaspheme the work of Christ. That is their sin nature. God does not even condemn them for not coming. They are already condemned.

Apart from the Grace of God, in the Drawing of the Father, nobody would ever come and nobody would ever be saved.

Salvation is by the Grace of God, not your works of faith, repentance, or obedience. Grace. All of Grace.

Ephesians 2:8 for by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
9 not of works, that no one would boast.

 

Once again you show you do not have a good understanding of the issue. Making choices does NOT equal "free will." "Free will" is the teaching that man's will is NOT in bondage to the law of sin and death, but is FREE to do righteousness apart from the Power of God.

The truth is that their will IS in bondage to the law of sin and death and therefore they choose NOT to come, choose NOT to drink, choose NOT to obey.

No, Andy, it is you who is teaching a false gospel. There is no good in the lost man that would allow him to believe, repent, or obey without the Grace of God the Father first drawing him to Christ. You are teaching a false gospel of works, not the true Gospel of the Grace of Almighty God apart from works.

Romans 4:6 Even as David also pronounces blessing on the man to whom God counts righteousness apart from works.

And even James makes it clear that works are the result of faith, not the other way around.

James 2:20 But do you want to know, vain man, that faith apart from works is dead?