Drinking Question......

Glad my rambling made sense. Of all the positions presented on the topic, the position I outlined is highly consistent with scripture, especially since the "all alcohol consumption is wrong" position is not consistent with scripture.

 

So what if a believer drinks every so often? What's the harm? None.

We don't need the law enforcement in our fellowships.

 

That person is welcome in my house, but if he's got a drinking problem, I won't let him drink in my house. I must definitely will not allow him to be drunk in my house.

That's a no-brainer. Doesn't matter of you believe drinkign is wrong or not.

TW, I have a friend whose an alcoholic. He hasn't had a drink in 15 almost years, iirc.

 

That's a tough situation to be in. I would probably lay it all out there for them and tell them what I thought, but they would not be welcome to drink in my house. If they wanted to drink in their car (I have family members who will step out of the house to smoke when visiting), they can, but not in the home.

 

John, just wanted to bring up something here. You have posted this twice. I'm wondering about your reference to abusing drugs being ANY use of a controlled substance. I have a dr's script for a legal controlled substance. It is labelled with a special tag "controlled substance" to flag the person at the pharmacy window to request my driver's license. If this has already been addressed and I missed it I apologize. Just didn't want there to be any confusion. I know many Christians with these various scripts. There are several categories of them. OTOH, you may put such scripts in the abuse category, but I'm thinking you don't. But feel free to correct me there as well. Thanks. :wavey:

 

Let me clarify. I was referring to the use of any ILLEGAL controlled substance as being a sin. Using a controlled substance that is legal, and doing so under a physician's care is perfectly permissible.

 

Because they're illegal, and we're called to submit the authority on such things.

If it's being abused, then yes, it's a sin.

Drinking is permissible so long as it's not abused. Heck, even Jesus drank alcohol.

 

Pardon me if someone else has already asked this. I skimmed the entire thread, but didn't read every single post.

I think I'm following you here JohnV, but let me ask this for clarity. Are you also implying that if a person's only purpose when drinking is to get drunk it's a sin?

I take that from your statement that anyone smoking pot to simply get high is a sin whether it's legal or not. (Which I agree with BTW) I'm just seeing if you hold to the same standard with alcohol.

 

Yes, absolutely. If you're drinking for the purpose of getting drunk, then it's a sin.

100% Yes, Si, Oui, Ja.

 

2Jn 1:9 Everyone transgressing and not abiding in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ, he has both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house, nor speak a greeting to him.
2Jn 1:11 For he who speaks a greeting to him is partaker of his evil deeds.

 

What does this have to do with the OP?

 

If you've got an alcoholic in your house, you shouln't be allowing him to drink. You're enabling his sinful behavior, plus you're making it more difficult to overcome the situation. You wouldn't let a cokehead do a line of cocaine in yoru house, would you? Then you also shouldn't let a drunkard drink in your house. The short answer is, if ya person does this, then yes, it's likely a sin, because they are enabling another to sin, and causing him to stumble.

 

Is drinking alcoholic drinks a baptist issue or a Biblical issue?

 

Since drinking alcoholic beverages is scripturally permissible, it's not a scriptural issue. If you're of a baptist fellowship or sect that eschews drinking completely, then it's definitely a baptist issue. Why do you ask?

 

If those verses are a case for abstenance based on Scripture, you missed the mark. You would be much better of quoting from Pauls letters about our body being the temple of the Lord, and a living sacrifice, plus his verses about being a stumbling block to others, a bad witness, and consideration for the weaker brother.