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Easier to believe....

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by steveo, Feb 5, 2004.

  1. steveo

    steveo New Member

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    What do you think is easier to believe. That God would allow the King James, Tyndale, Geneva , etc.. to have verses that shouldn't have been included for hundredes of years. (end of Mark etc..) or that the new versions have rightly deleted them, which if God doesnt come soon, could be for hundreds of years.
    You can't believe both.
    I am not King James only by the way,
    But I do prefer it.
     
  2. Craigbythesea

    Craigbythesea Active Member

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    Did God allow Kenneth Taylor to mess up the Living Bible Paraphrased, or did Kenneth Taylor just go ahead and do it? :( [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  3. Forever settled in heaven

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    how does this argument compare w the claims of the Vatican?

    wld u believe that God cld've allowed the Holy See to not be the ultimate repository of His truth? that His church cld've been misled for over a thousand years until a renegade German monk discovers the real Gospel? that Sacred Tradition n the Magisterium shd be supplanted by Sola Scriptura in these modern years?

    ;)
     
  4. LadyEagle

    LadyEagle <b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>

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    Maybe some got convicted of sin by reading the KJV and went on a quest to prove it is wrong and by believing it is wrong and attackig it can now justify sin in their lives or just live in denial until the Judgment Seat.

    Itching ears... :(
     
  5. Pastor Larry

    Pastor Larry <b>Moderator</b>

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    Why are we deciding truth by what is "easier to believe"? Don't you think the facts matter?
     
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    robycop3 Active Member

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    Steveo, can you show us two English BVs that are exactly alike?
     
  7. steveo

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    Yeah, I have 2 king james bibles that are exactly the same. ;)
    Good point about the catholic heresy.
    Like I said, I am not King James only.
    I do preach from it for several reasons but I do use the nasb and niv for studying etc...
    I only ask the question because you can believe for instance that the end of mark was there or it should be removed. Can't believe both.
    As far as facts, how many of us have really got to see the numerous manuscripts locked up in whatever museum to study. I wouldn't even know what to do with them anyway;)
     
  8. TC

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    I believe he was talking about different versions - like the Geneva, Great, Bishops, Coverdales, Tyndales. You know, those that the KJV departed from and changed in many places.
     
  9. Craigbythesea

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    Hey, man, that's the KJV you're talking about! To say anything bad about it, even though the things that you are saying are true and undeniable, is speaking the words of Satan. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    TC Active Member

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    B A A A A A A D Me. :rolleyes: [​IMG]
     
  11. steveo

    steveo New Member

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    I know he was talking about different versions.
    It was a joke.
     
  12. Johnv

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    The source texts for many so-called "modern versions" are considerably older than the source texts for the KJV et al. So, even though the KJV is older, its source texts are considerably newer. That doesn't make one more right than the other. One of the reasons I refer to the NIV a lot is becuase, when there's a descrepancy between the texts, it places a footnote next to the text in question, referring to the source texts that it is found in.
     
  13. Scott J

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    Please cite a sin that is identified and condemned in the KJV that is not likewise condemned in MV's.

    Thank you.

    P.S.- There is a sin taught in every version that I have seen... thou shalt not bear false witness.
     
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    The Oxford KJV and the Cambridge KJV disagree each other in a very few places such as "Ye" and "He."
     
  15. Precepts

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    Yeah, and then the hard part is to get you to admit the KJB was right all along. :D
     
  16. Craigbythesea

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    Yes, but the NASB says,

    Exodus 20:16. "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.”

    And the NASB, don’t forget, was written by Satan to deceive the Church. Therefore, to obey the Ten Commandments in the NASB would be sinful. Therefore the KJO gang has no choice but to bear false witness.

    The KJV says,

    Exodus 20:16 “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.”

    But the word “not” was a printing error. The real KJV says,

    Exodus 20:16 “Thou shalt bear false witness against thy neighbour.”
     
  17. HankD

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    Except between the Greek/Hebrew compared to the English of the KJV in certain places.

    "God forbid" and "would to God" cases in point.

    The KJ translators no doubt exercising dynamic equivalence (though I believe this goes beyond DE and the transaltors were wrong).

    However, flaws in the translation of any document the size of the Scripture are/were unavoidable both now and in 158, 1582, 1611 or 1972, etc...

    HankD
     
  18. Precepts

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    Do you really expect anyone to believe that? seems you have the problem of equating the REAL WORD of God.
     
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    Seems you are limited to trying to point out what you say are "flaws" in the KJB.

    God forbid that you should attempt to declare yourself the authority over the Word of God, and, would to God you'd realize that some day soon. [​IMG]
     
  20. HankD

    HankD Well-Known Member

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    Ditto [​IMG]

    HankD
     
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