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Emperor Obama

Zaac

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No, they expanded the law unilaterally. That is essentially what Obama is doing as well. The difference is that there were far few immigrants involved and the mood of the people was in favor of Reagan and Bush taking the action.

Well said.:thumbs:
 

carpro

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While I agree with you on the illegality, it is interesting to note that conservatives have been saying Obama is nothing but a community organizer, but now that he's contradicting himself on a legal matter, he is a Harvard educated constitutional scholar who ought to know better.

Not really. He's just a pathological liar and a failed community organizer.

He considers himself a constitutional scholar. Claims he knows the law, said as much and actually got it right. Now he's lying through his teeth to try to justify what he knows is an unconstitutional act.
 
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Zaac

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Not really. He's just a pathological liar and a failed community organizer.

He considers himself a constitutional scholar. Claims he knows the law, said as much and actually got it right. Now he's lying through his teeth to try to justify what he knows is an unconstitutional act.

To what part of the Constitution do you refer?
 

church mouse guy

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No, they expanded the law unilaterally. That is essentially what Obama is doing as well. The difference is that there were far few immigrants involved and the mood of the people was in favor of Reagan and Bush taking the action.

This is false. Reagan expressed reservations.

The Democrats lied to Reagan and promised a closed border. No one was in favor of what the Democrats did because they lied all the way.
 

InTheLight

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This is false. Reagan expressed reservations.

The Democrats lied to Reagan and promised a closed border. No one was in favor of what the Democrats did because they lied all the way.

Reagan was President. He's was in charge of the INS and the Border Patrol. Why was it the Democrats fault the borders weren't closed?
 

church mouse guy

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Reagan was President. He's was in charge of the INS and the Border Patrol. Why was it the Democrats fault the borders weren't closed?


Because Congress never kept their word. Reagan was not an imperialistic emperor but President of a republic.

Look, all of this has been expounded by Democrat lawyer Turley and that is the reason that Turley is such a major defection from the theory of the imperial emperorship. The law is complicated but the essence of the legal point is that Congress passed a law that Reagan did not like but he enforced anyway and he acted to enforce the Congressional intent. Bush Sr. the same. Nevertheless, Congress passed a law telling Bush Sr. that good intentions of enforcing Congressional law aside, no President was to issue executive actions on immigration in the future. Reagan's actions as I understand them dealt with extending Congressional amnesty to people who had been in the country before 1982 but had left and returned. It was a limited specific action and was designed to support federal law. It was not imperialistic.

Perhaps you can find Turley's detailed legal explanation online if you look.
 

Revmitchell

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Georgetown law professor Jonathan Turley, a political liberal but a longstanding critic of President Obama’s executive overreach, continued to sound the alarm against the president’s planned executive amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants, saying it will “tear at the very fabric of the Constitution.”

Turley spoke Friday with Fox News’s Megyn Kelly about the White House’s proposed unilateral action, which will almost certainly come by the end of the year. “It’s a very sad moment, but it’s becoming a particularly dangerous moment — particularly after this election – to defy the will of Congress yet again,” he said.

“What the president is suggesting is tearing at the very fabric of the Constitution,” Turley continued. “We have a separation of powers that gives us balance. And that doesn’t protect the branches — it’s not there to protect the executive branch or legislative branch — it’s to protect liberty. It’s to prevent any branch from assuming so much control that they become a threat to liberty.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/corne...esty-tearing-very-fabric-constitution-brendan
 

Revmitchell

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President Barack Obama's planned executive orders that could issue work permits to as many as five million illegal immigrants "would be an unprecedented threat to the balance of powers within our system," constitutional law professor Jonathan Turley said Friday.

"It's becoming a particularly dangerous moment if the president is going to go forward, particularly after this election, to defy the will of Congress yet again," said Turley, who teaches at George Washington University in Washington, told Megyn Kelly on her Fox News program.


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Zaac

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President Barack Obama's planned executive orders that could issue work permits to as many as five million illegal immigrants "would be an unprecedented threat to the balance of powers within our system," constitutional law professor Jonathan Turley said Friday.

"It's becoming a particularly dangerous moment if the president is going to go forward, particularly after this election, to defy the will of Congress yet again," said Turley, who teaches at George Washington University in Washington, told Megyn Kelly on her Fox News program.


Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.Newsmax.com/US/executive-orders-amnesty-constitution/2014/11/14/id/607521/#ixzz3JpVO97Je
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So he didn't say that the law was being broken. We already know that this is stepping on people's toes. But it's silly to keep calling stuff illegal just because a bunch of DC bureaucrats have gotten their feelings hurt that this man doesn't care that they have won both houses of Congress.
 
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church mouse guy

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Please, you can hardly call this imperial act personal or racial and expect people like Turley to fit into that category.

The impact of this imperial decree is to add 20,000,000 Democrats to the voter lists for 2016 and to go to a one-party country where the leader is an imperial emperor.

The Democrats lost the election of 2014.

This is just the first of many imperial decrees to be issued in the next two years.

These decrees may be good for the hard left but they have destroyed the republic. These decrees may lead to a civil war, which is what the imperialists are hoping for.
 

Use of Time

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Please, you can hardly call this imperial act personal or racial and expect people like Turley to fit into that category.

The impact of this imperial decree is to add 20,000,000 Democrats to the voter lists for 2016 and to go to a one-party country where the leader is an imperial emperor.

The Democrats lost the election of 2014.

This is just the first of many imperial decrees to be issued in the next two years.

These decrees may be good for the hard left but they have destroyed the republic. These decrees may lead to a civil war, which is what the imperialists are hoping for.

Civil war? Really. Isn't that a tad bit dramatic.
 

Zaac

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Please, you can hardly call this imperial act personal or racial and expect people like Turley to fit into that category.

The impact of this imperial decree is to add 20,000,000 Democrats to the voter lists for 2016 and to go to a one-party country where the leader is an imperial emperor.

The Democrats lost the election of 2014.

This is just the first of many imperial decrees to be issued in the next two years.

These decrees may be good for the hard left but they have destroyed the republic. These decrees may lead to a civil war, which is what the imperialists are hoping for.

I recall seeing an old cartoon back from the Presidency of Lincoln and how people were referring to him as Emperor would he unilaterally signed the order to end slavery.

People are now starting to pick up on what President Obama is being called and what Lincoln was called.

Just saying.
 

InTheLight

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The impact of this imperial decree is to add 20,000,000 Democrats to the voter lists for 2016 and to go to a one-party country where the leader is an imperial emperor.

Best estimates are that there are 12 million illegals in the country, not all to them are voting age.
 

Zaac

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Best estimates are that there are 12 million illegals in the country, not all to them are voting age.

And I believe that VOTES is what this is really about. The GOP doesn't want the Hispanic community in the Democrats pocket the way that they feel like Blacks are.

Such a unilateral move could lead to millions of Democrat votes in the near future because of an issue that Hispanics feel like the GOP refused to budge and help them.

They may have won the midterms, but they are screwing the long term with this issue.

If the Dems can harangue the majority of the Black and Hispanic voting blocs, the GOP won't have another President for a long, long time.
 

carpro

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Please, you can hardly call this imperial act personal or racial and expect people like Turley to fit into that category.

The impact of this imperial decree is to add 20,000,000 Democrats to the voter lists for 2016 and to go to a one-party country where the leader is an imperial emperor.

The Democrats lost the election of 2014.

This is just the first of many imperial decrees to be issued in the next two years.

These decrees may be good for the hard left but they have destroyed the republic. These decrees may lead to a civil war, which is what the imperialists are hoping for.

Another impact that has barely been mentioned.

With implementation this heinous XO, the taxpayers were handed a $5 billion tax bill due almost immediately to be paid out in cash to illegals within the next few months.
 
Barrack O Bama (lightning from heaven)

Barrack O Bama (lightning from heaven)
You know on the day of his inauguration in 2009,the Torah reading for all observant Jews was Exodus chapter one. Verse 8 is amazing...

8.And there arose up a new King over Egypt which knew not Joseph.

Jan 20,2009 was a Monday (the middle of the Jewish week) and as you recall that king told the midwives to perform abortions on the boy babies being born less they increase in numbers and rise up with his enemies and go to war against him.
One of the first executive orders he signed was to reverse the ban on partial birth abortions that George W Bush had implemented. Since then he has mirrored the king that knew not Joseph.
But it gets even more interesting....
His right hand mans name is JOSEPH BIDEN...
and those that were running against him were John (SON OF CAIN) Mc Cain and Sarah Palin..

More yet, she had similarities with Sarah in the bible,her daughter had a child out of wedlock and her own son has downs syndrome.
The other candidates were Herman (WAR-MAN ) Cain.


So... I would like to know if you think that it is possible that AMERICA is modern day ISRAEL in captivity to EGYPT?
 
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