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End of The Spear, homoexual activist stars.

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Bunyon, Jan 16, 2006.

  1. Bunyon

    Bunyon New Member

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    I just found out that the lead role of Steve Saint in End of The Spear is being played by a well known homosexual activist who is on record as supporting gay marriage. I once watched him on Larry King angrily debate John Macarthur on Mcarthur's biblical stance about gay marriage and homosexuality. Not only that, the actor has also played the lead role of Jesus in "Corpus Christie" in which Jesus is portrayed as a promiscuous gay Christ. Is this madness? I mean why would you ever choose an actor who starred as a promiscuous gay Jesus to play a martyred missionary?
     
  2. LadyEagle

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    Bunyon, you are correct & I will be boycotting this movie. I do not knowingly support the gay community. This is a tragedy for the Christian community and church groups which are planning to support this film by going to see the previews. I am going to try to write Steve Saint & see why he picked a gay activist to play his slain father, Nate Saint. [​IMG]

    http://www.chadallenonline.com/news/index.html

    A quick Google search shows that this is the same Chad Allen and he is regarded highly in the gay community ever since he "came out" of the closet. [​IMG]

    I guess the bottom line is the almighty dollar.
     
  3. PamelaK

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    I agree, I won't be going to see it. You both might be interested in reading this thread: "Have you heard About This One?
    Edited only to shorten link - LE

    [ January 16, 2006, 11:06 PM: Message edited by: LadyEagle ]
     
  4. LadyEagle

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    Thanks, I hadn't seen that thread.
     
  5. standingfirminChrist

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    Here is an article I found about Chad Allen and his part as Nate Saint.

    Chad was chosen by Every Tribe entertainment to play the role because of his picture on the cover of 'The Advocate', a gay magazine.

    http://www.sharperiron.org/showthread.php?t=2244
     
  6. Bunyon

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    I think the movie will be ok, and the actor will do a good job. My problem is why use a gay activist. He has promoted gay marriage. This just puts him in a position to lend christian credence to his gay marriage agenda. Why? When there are so many great straight actors? Oh, well hopefully the guy will have the good sense to keep his gay activism and his role in this movie separate. But I know the missionaries portrayed in the move would never tolerate an actor who played a promiscuously gay Jesus in "Corpus Christie" to portray them if they were alive to have a say.
     
  7. Emily25069

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    UGH!

    So disappointing to hear.

    My husband and I were looking forward to seeing this. Now there is no way!
     
  8. LadyEagle

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    Thank you, SFIC, for linking that article. I plan to email that link to every pastor I know and can think of and am praying against the film, which is a blasphemy to the righteousness of a Holy God and a smear to the testimony of those who were martyred for Jesus Christ. It is bad enough that the actor is a homosexual activist, but it is grave that he played a homosexual Jesus Christ in his career. The film is anathema.
     
  9. patrick

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    People,

    I hear you ranting and raving. The guy is gay. We should not condone the sin. 99% of the people watching the movie won't have a clue. I think the company made a mistake in casting him. However, the movie is a strong outreach tool. God can take this movie and change lives.

    Don't pur out the baby with the bath water. It still a powerful tool if we use it. I think God can be honored thru it. Let's hold onto what romans 8:28 says.
     
  10. JamieinNH

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    Well said Patrick,

    If we didn't go see a movie because it had someone that was a sinner in it, well... we wouldn't be seeing any movies than huh?

    I also agree it was a bad choice, but it seems that the people here have a witch hunt attitude. I am glad they outlawed hanging, or I am afraid we would have a possee together now, and would be looking for the highest tree...


    What would happen if we did this instead:

    Prayed for the guy to find God, which would leave him out of his sin.

    Prayed that the movie reached out to other people to help them find God.


    Instead, you guys want to get on the banwagon of charging this guy for his sin. Don't we all sin and fall short of the Glory of God? Where is the compassion, the prayers, and the understanding that even through a sinner, God can reach people....


    Jamie
     
  11. LadyEagle

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    No, the issue is Every Tribe Entertainment deliberately choosing a gay activist who has played a homosexual Jesus Christ in the past as a star of the film. The condemnation is on Every Tribe Entertainment.

    Some of you totally miss the point about a Holy and Righteous God. God cannot bless a project that does not bring Glory and Honor to Him and He won't, especially when He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrha and Romans Chapter One is very clear about the sin of homosexuality. It is not just like every other sin. There is a difference in the degree of sin and what constitutes an abomination. Homosexuality is an abomination. Some would do well to Study the Scriptures instead of guides on a watered-down generic Gospel that is politically correct.

    But I suppose if it is okay to drink in moderation, a little homosexuality in moderation won't hurt, either, eh?
     
  12. Songbird

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    Well, that made me sad, too. But.... I think we should pray that by doing this film maybe a seed was planted. Who knows--if we all pray he may be convicted and turn to the Lord.

    I heard from my Bible teacher in high school that the person who directed/produced (not sure which--please forgive me for not checking my sources) the Jesus movie was Jewish but gave his life to Christ as a result of being involved in the movie.

    At any rate, we should pray for him and that this movie will be used to God's glory.

    Take care.

    Linda
     
  13. JamieinNH

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    Uhm... Go back and read the post in this thread. Every Tribe Entertainment is NOT the center of this thread.

    Nice, just limit God and what he can do... That's a nice way to explain your stance..


    Does justifying it by the "degree of sin" argument, knowing that we are all sinners, does this way make you sleep better at night?


    Just because you don't believe in the friendily, non-hate manner I preach/teach, don't think it's wrong. I don't try to be politically correct. I just try to preach and teach in the way and manner Jesus did and taught us to do. Through love and prayer. If you don't like it then there is always the /ignore option.

    &lt;personal attack snipped&gt;

    Jamie

    [ January 17, 2006, 11:31 AM: Message edited by: LadyEagle ]
     
  14. LadyEagle

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    The issue is not whether or not I limit God. God has made His position on homosexuality perfectly clear in His Word. The Holy Spirit cannot bless this film and will not. Read Romans Chapter One.

    The Holy Spirit will not bless this unless it brings honor and glory to Jesus Christ and it does not.

    When Every Tribe made a conscious decision to hire this actor, knowing he is a gay activist who has portrayed Jesus Christ as a homosexual, Every Tribe flaunted God's Righteousness in His Face. So will those who make the choice to go and see the film, rent it, or buy it, knowing the controversy surrounding it.

    The Bible says that to whom much is given, much is required.
     
  15. JamieinNH

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    And how it this On topic with this thread?

    Jamie
     
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    What I am wondering, is this:

    Why was Every Tribe Entertainment looking at a magazine like The Advocate in the first place?

    If it is a Christian based movie company, why in the world would they be looking at a gay magazine. That throws up flags there.

    Witch Hunt? No, I don't think so. First off, I did not hear anyone say, 'let's go lynch the guy.' Second, as Christians, we are allowed to judge those that claim to be in the body of Christ.

    1 Corinthians 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
    1 Corinthians 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

    I don't see how going to the theater and buying their tickets, thereby promoting the producing company is putting them away from us.

    Also Jesus told us to judge righteous judgment. I believe we have judged righteously in saying a christian should not support the movie.
     
  17. Linda64

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    AMEN LadyEagle!!!

    Romans 1:22-28 pretty much sums it up.

    Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; (Romans 1:22-28)

    There is so much scripture telling us to "separate" from such evil and sin. We are to separate FROM sin and UNTO holines.

    Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. (Ephesians 5:10-11)

    Knowing that one of the actors is a homosexual and supporting such a movie would be a sin to go and watch it. In this way, you are supporting the sin of homosexuality, from which we are told to SEPARATE.
     
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    I generally do not confuse actors with the roles they play (If that were so, I'd have to refrain from watching The Brady Bunch because the lead actor was homosexual in real life).

    This looks like a good movie, and knowing the true story behind it, I will be taking my entire family to see it.
     
  19. Scott J

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    As far as I know, the Brady Bunch never purported to be a Christian production. Even so, the homosexuality was kept under wraps until long after the show ceased.

    I do not plan to support this film much to my disappointment. There is no justification I can think of for rewarding such a poor judgment. If Christians don't go see it, perhaps the next company that produces a Christian film will be more careful with its casting decisions.
     
  20. LadyEagle

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    I smell a red herring that falls flat on its face.

    1. Did you pay to watch Brady Bunch?
    2. Did you know the lead actor was a homosexual in real life?
    3. Was the Brady Bunch advocated, promoted by a "Christian" company about a "Christian" experience about "Christians" martyred for Jesus Christ and being promoted by Christian churches and groups?

    Comparison of apples and oranges. Sad.
     
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