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End of The Spear, homoexual activist stars.

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Bunyon, Jan 16, 2006.

  1. Bartimaeus

    Bartimaeus New Member

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    Standingfirm,
    You are right and I beg your pardon. It might have been better said by the fact that the Lord Jesus withstood pride and selfishness in the lives of his desciples. I could then say that it was a battle dealing with the natural man as it is in each of us.
    Thanks -----Bart
     
  2. rlbcompany

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    Found this post on a blog that is put out by Byron Harvey who is Pastor of an Evangelical Free church in Pennsylvania. Harvey offers this entry.

    It offers a response from the Producers of "End of the Spear" defending their casting choice.

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    As I posted earlier, I emailed Jim Hanon, the director of End of the Spear, and offered to him the opportunity to give his side of the story—he had complained that Jason Janz, in the post on sharperiron, hadn’t done this. Here, unedited and uncommented-upon, is his response:

    Reverend Harvey,
    Thank you for contacting us and expressing your concern that Chad Allen was cast in End of the Spear. Movie making is a day to day industry involving a great diversity of people. We don’t require the people working with us to conform to our understanding of scripture. We have chosen to tell true stories, and a common denominator of all of these stories is that they raise the question of what it can mean to live what the Bible says is true. When you are involved in a production with this foundation you will encounter and work through these questions on a day to day basis. We do not feel anyone should be excluded from this process and professional environment because they don’t believe the way we do. Chad’s performance in End of the Spear is noteworthy. End of the Spear is not about the film makers, rather it is about an incredible story. The story is what will be judged and debated by a world wide audience, and it is the only thing we are promoting. The story is greater than the storytellers and it would be an enormous disservice if great stories of faith like this one were reduced to the human shortcomings of the film makers. We invite you to experience End of the Spear and then judge for yourself the message you are left with.

    Every Tribe Entertainment.
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  3. LadyEagle

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  4. rlbcompany

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    Byron Harvey's website is linked to from Chad Allen's website
     
  5. Bunyon

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    "Byron Harvey's website is linked to from Chad Allen's website "--------------------------------

    Of course it is. He wants to play the martyr.
     
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    ribcompany,
    Do you believr God would use a practicing prostitute to to propagate the Gospel?
     
  8. LadyEagle

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    Or a porn star?
     
  9. standingfirminChrist

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    I do believe that Jesus would say, 'Go, and sin no more'.

    Course, if the supposed movies that are supposed to be christian movies don't mention Christ, or the Word of God, then the movie industry can dumb down christianity easily by showing man can be good, can do good without having to give credit to God.

    Making proselytes a twofold child of hell more than themselves.
     
  10. Bunyon

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    Actually guys, the gospel is very present in the movie. The Indian who lived with the missionaries, goes back and tell the Indians that wobogonnie's (God)son came to earth and was speared so that others would not have to be. The realize that "God has marked a trail for for them to follow and live well". The gospel is clearly in there. And the poor choice of using Chad Allen, did not hurt the movie too much, although I think it hurts our resistance to the gay agenda somewhat. They believe that to get into heaven one had to successfully jump the great boa on the trail of the after life. If you were not successful you turned into a termite. They are told that Wobogonnies Son has jumped the great Boa for all of them, so if they follow his marking on the trail he made for them they will make it into heaven.

    [ January 21, 2006, 09:12 AM: Message edited by: Bunyon ]
     
  11. standingfirminChrist

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    And this is Gospel? How? If there is no mention of Jesus, how is this to lead the lost to Jesus today? They are going to go looking for a god other than the true God.

    What is this world coming to when someone can destroy a missionary's testimony by turning God into a strange name and there is no mention of the Lord Jesus Christ?
     
  12. LadyEagle

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    Great boa? Snake? Nice. :rolleyes:
     
  13. Linda64

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    Patrick:
    There is no "baby" in that bath water. I do not see the gospel in that movie. Read Romans 8:28 in context, Patrick--it says "to them that love God, to them who are called according to His purpose." A homosexual playing the role of a born again missionary is the antithesis of God's purpose. I read Elizabeth Elliot's book "Through Gates of Splendor"--this movie is a poor representation of what happened in January, 1956, when 5 missionaries were martyred in the jungles of Equador.

    Here is the true story of those missionaries:
    http://www2.ups.edu/arches/2004Fall/featureMysteriousWays.html
     
  14. Bunyon

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    So what you are saying, standingfirm, is that if you were a missionary and you were trying to speak to natives, you would not allow them to use there own words for God? You would insist they use an English word? In your attempts to make contact you would not use words and concepts they were familiar with? Check out your Bible. Paul used the idol to the unknown God as a segue to introduce christ. The missionaries did the same. This is not an invention of the movie, this is the approach the missionaries took. You have just called the martyred missionaries into question.
     
  15. Bunyon

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    Silly Linda [​IMG]

    I just read the link you provided. That is the same story that is in the movie. Exactly as described in your link. Apparently, you have not actually seen the movie.
     
  16. whatever

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    You mean one like Rahab?
     
  17. Bunyon

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    Or Tamer, the great, great, great......... grandmother of Jesus.
     
  18. Linda64

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    That link has NOTHING to do with the movie--it has EVERYTHING to do with the TRUE story of what happened on January 8, 1956. Five missionaries were martyred in the jungle of Equador.

    You are the silly one to think otherwise.
     
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    We are not in Equador, we are in America. to those who do not know the language of the Waodani, the use of Waendongi, and jump the boa, is just silly talk. You would think that since the movie is supposed to be shown in America and supposed to be about how God changed the lives, that the producers would have put that in.

    Also, two other scripts were rejected before, could it be that those may have mentioned God? Could it be that those two rejected scripts were much cleaner and did not have nudity or vulgar scenes?

    Why can't a christian company put out a christian movie?
     
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