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Eugene Peterson's "The Message"

Discussion in '2000-02 Archive' started by TomVols, Mar 23, 2002.

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  1. TomVols

    TomVols New Member

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    This contemporary paraphrase has been available in the NT and in selected portions of the OT for just under a decade. It will soon be available in the entire Bible. What do you think of what you've seen so far?
     
    #1 TomVols, Mar 23, 2002
  2. TomVols

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    My two cents: I'm growing to like it, but I prefer J.B. Phillips's paraphrase.
     
    #2 TomVols, Mar 23, 2002
  3. Rev. Joshua

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    I haven't seen Phillips' but I do think the message does a good job. In some ways, it feels to me like an extended sermon illustration (which is generally how I've seen it used).

    Joshua
     
    #3 Rev. Joshua, Mar 23, 2002
  4. Pete Richert

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    I think it is harder to understand than regular dynamic equivalence. That might have been street talk in the sixties but times have changed.
     
    #4 Pete Richert, Mar 23, 2002
  5. Forever settled in heaven

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    the 1st question is abt The Message, but it's not available for a vote in the 2nd question (save under "Others").

    ouch! [​IMG]
     
    #5 Forever settled in heaven, Mar 23, 2002
  6. Chris Temple

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    I prefer to just call it "The Mess"! :eek:
     
    #6 Chris Temple, Mar 24, 2002
  7. Marathon Man

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    AMEN Chris!!!
     
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  8. TomVols

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    FYI, I posted the 2nd question to see if any corrolation existed between a person's preferred style of translation philosophy and their opinion about "The Message."
     
    #8 TomVols, Mar 25, 2002
  9. Rev. Joshua

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    Tom,

    No mention of the NRSV on your poll?

    Joshua
     
    #9 Rev. Joshua, Mar 26, 2002
  10. TomVols

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    Joshua,
    No. I only mentioned the popular translations. You can select "other" if you like :D

    BTW, you really need to check out Phillips. It's a must for the serious NT student.

    [ March 28, 2002, 05:06 PM: Message edited by: TomVols ]
     
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  11. Chris Temple

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    Phillips is now available for free for the Online Bible.
     
    #11 Chris Temple, Mar 28, 2002
  12. rsr

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    Chris:

    Thanks for the tip on the Phillips New Testament. I downloaded it and am enjoying it. If only it had the C.S. Lewis foreward ...
     
    #12 rsr, Mar 28, 2002
  13. TomVols

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    Phillips is now available for free for the Online Bible.</font>[/QUOTE]Where? Where? Where? (panting)
    If only the ESV were available for the Online Bible.
     
    #13 TomVols, Mar 29, 2002
  14. Chris Temple

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    Here Tom: http://www.onlinebible.net/bibles2.html

    Scroll down to Phillips NT (1972).
     
    #14 Chris Temple, Mar 29, 2002
  15. Andrey

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    I like it. I helps me to realize that there is more to God than the box I often put Him in!

    I was raised bilingual, and I have learned that whenever you translate, you color. The best way to learn what someone meant when they said something is to ask them.

    To rely on one's interpretation of Gospel as Gospel, truly limits how much light can shine, so that people can see our good works and glorify God in heaven.
     
    #15 Andrey, Mar 30, 2002
  16. Momto3JD

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    I am so surprised by the pole. I thought there were a lot more KJV people here. I am not KJV only but i do think it should be the Bible of choice in church for reading and memorization. I use other versions from time to time for personal study.

    I blame the lack of a common translation for our lack of memorization. You used to recite John 3:16 and everyone could say it in unison. Today in many circles there is no such thing!

    I have seen unsaved people pick up an NIv and breathe a sigh of relief.

    There is my two cents.
     
    #16 Momto3JD, Apr 9, 2002
  17. TomVols

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    My guess is KJVO people see the title of the poll and head the other way.

    Momto wrote:
    That's no excuse. I blame laziness. There's no such thing as common music, yet people can memorize different song lyrics. There's no such thing as common literature, yet people memorize different poetry.
    How so? :confused:
     
    #17 TomVols, Apr 9, 2002
  18. DocCas

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    Yes, but we memorize the same lyrics, not different lyrics.

    Example:

    Amazing grace how sweet the sound,
    that saved a wretch like me!
    I once was lost,
    but now am found,
    was blind, but now I see.

    We don't hear people singing:

    Astonishing sanctity how saccharine the utterance,
    which rescued a victum such as I,
    I in former times was missing,
    however now am discovered,
    was incognizant however now I discern.

    [​IMG]
     
    #18 DocCas, Apr 9, 2002
  19. Pastor Larry

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    Can you hum a few bars to get us started??? It doesn't seem to fit the tune. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
    #19 Pastor Larry, Apr 9, 2002
  20. DocCas

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    I don't patronize bars! Just TomVols! :D
     
    #20 DocCas, Apr 9, 2002
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