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Everything We Have Been Taught About Our Origins Is A Lie

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Revmitchell, Jun 25, 2014.

  1. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member

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    It is currently accepted by science and geology that coal is a by-product of decaying vegetation. The vegetation becomes buried over time and is covered with sediment. That sediment eventually fossilises and becomes rock. This natural process of coal formation takes up to 400 million years to accomplish.

    Anything that is found in lumps of coal or in coal seams during mining, had to have been placed or dropped into the vegetation before it was buried in sediment.

    ....In 1944, as a ten year old boy, Newton Anderson, dropped a lump of coal in his basement and it broke in half as it hit the floor. What he discovered inside defies explanation based upon current scientific orthodoxy.

    Inside the coal was a hand crafted brass alloy bell with an iron clapper and sculptured handle.

    When an analysis was carried out it was discovered that the bell was made from anunusual mix of metals, different from any known modern alloy production (including copper, zinc, tin, arsenic, iodine, and selenium).

    The seam from whence this lump of coal was mined is estimated to be 300,000,000 years old!

    - See more at: http://www.maltanow.com.mt/?p=2927#sthash.RyArPy2K.dpuf
     
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    But Rev, the "bell" just as the coal had no doubt come together by chance after a very long series of circumstances (we would probably be told).


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  3. quantumfaith

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    I took a class on oil and coal formation and it was a great study. They could get good results with the right conditions of heat and pressure in a very short time to produce coal. They also did a study that shows most of the great oil deposits world wide were proof of a world wide flood and quick burial that is also a requirement for this formation. Good stuff.

    Here's a good link" http://www.creationworldview.org/articles_view.asp?id=51
     
  5. Aaron

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    I've searched the Answers in Genesis and the CRI sites for "London Hammer," and nothing came up.

    Just wondering how this has to do with the OP?
     
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    You should check out the Forbidden Archeology websites. A lot of strange stuff indeed.
     
  7. quantumfaith

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    Unless I am mistaken, it too was featured in article referenced in the OP.
     
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    Aside from the host of assumptions and manipulation in many dating methods, one doesn't need millions of years to make coal, rock, or diamonds. All one needs are the right conditions.
     
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    So it is. Your source stated it was commonly cited by Creationists. Expected to see it on either of the sites I referenced if it was.
     
  10. quantumfaith

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    Even mathematics, the Queen of the sciences has foundations of assumptions. Does theology?
     
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    Proper theology has facts, not assumptions, as we take all theology frm the Bible, what gets assumed though is that we can rightly divide those facts!
     
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    Name one. I'll bet it's not like the un substantiated assumptions in dating methods. Fossils date the rocks.
     
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    Yes, even theology has assumptions. The bible never tries to prove the existence of God. It merely assumes it.

    "In the beginning God . . . " :)
     
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  15. quantumfaith

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    Definition of a point.....a mathematical assumption. I think you read and accept too many opposing views on the science of various dating techniques. Like it or not...the math (and science) is solid.

    http://debunkingdenialism.com/2011/...org/article/mark-226-and-problem-abiatharons/

    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/101_evidences_for_a_young_age_of_the_Earth_and_the_universe
     
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    Thank you tcassidy.....that is the very nature and posture of science....and mathematics. When new math (or science) is discovered it goes through rigorous professional review. Case in point, Dr. Andrew Wiles proof of Fermats Last Theorem.....His first proposal (after 10 years of work) was shown to contain some minor errors, and then they were corrected. Science ALWAYS leaves itself open to further investigation and refinement, without that intellectual posture it would be quite difficult to make advancements.
     
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