Evolution/Creation Poll -- Please Vote!

Thanks Craigbythesea,I get books from CDB occassionally.

 

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THE BATTLE OF BEGINNINGS

Blessings,

Luis

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Ichemist,
We might both want to get the book recommended by Craigbythesea.
There are several evolutionary theories floating about,which do you subscribe to?and Why? if you please.

 

Bill you should see this beautiful watch that my grandpaw gave me.
about six billion years it was just a spring then about 5 billion years ago it evolved gears and a watch face then after 4 billion years it evolved hands and the case then about 3 millionyears ago it was in the pre wind stage where th time eroded this beautiful engraving on it and its early development of its winding maehanisim and only about 1 million years ago the processof evolution put this beautiful gold plating on it.

I think evolutionists should study thermo dynamics before trying to get any one their lame TOE.
Most ridiculas thing I have ever heard theistic evolution.

here is my BIG BANG theroy,
God said, let there be and BANG there it was. </font>[/QUOTE]Wait another 65 million years and you will have a REAL "GRANDFATHER" clock. </font>[/QUOTE]

 

I reccomend another good one,
the first couple of chapters in the book of Genesis you can find it in the front of the Book called the Holy Bible.

Now without trying to translate what you or any other man thinks "what it really actually says"
what does it R eally Actually Say?

unless you have a problem with basic comprehensive reading skills you can see exactly what the scriptures plainly indicate. that God created everything in six literal 24 hour days.

Genesis 1

1. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6. And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9. And God said, Let the waters under the Heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10. And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11. And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12. And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13. And the evening and the morning were the third day.
14. And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15. And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18. And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19. And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
20. And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
21. And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
22. And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
23. And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24. And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25. And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26. And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29. And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31. And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Genesis 2
1. Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

 

I am not a biologist, so I do not subscribe to any particular nuance in evolutionary biology.

Due to my scientific formation I do not believe any theory to be true, we just try to understand creation using the best evidence we have right now, in science we do not stick to theories like dogmas, we are more than willing to abandon a theory that is proven wrong.

Theories are created, evolve, and change according to the available evidence.

"The grass withers and the flowers fall,
but the word of our God stands forever." Is 40:8

Blessings,

Luis

 

yes and His word was given to the writer of the book of Genesis so what seems to be the problem believing it happened just the way it was written down?

 

Ichemist,
There are countless "old Earth" & "young earth" pages on the net. It might be entertaining as well as educational to look at both sides of the issue there.There is good and bad info on both sides but you seem intelligent and I'm sure you will be able to sift through the gargage and get to the good stuff.This is not meant so much to change your point of view so much as it is to round out your point of view.
There are sound valid reasons to believe in the Creative point of view.

 

and another Amen!

 

But why is death sad or bad in the new heaven and earth if it's "natural" and a part of the creation of God, which God deemed "good."

You can't have it both ways. We can't say death was originally a part of God's creation and was good, and then say that when Eden is restored, death will be eradicated as a bad thing. It's either a good thing or a bad thing. The Bible makes it clear it is a bad thing and therefore, it could not have been part of God's original, "good" creation.

 

There's basically only one "theory of evolution" out there, but scientists do discuss details like does a certain fossil belong in a side branch or a main line of evolution. They do try to get new ideas in, like "punctuated equilibrium" . . .

As for evidence of evolution, it comes from the grand panarama of life history in the fossil records, including family relationships derived from examining the forms of the fossils compared to forms of living creatures; the family relationships were dramaticaly confirmed by chemical analysis of first the proteins and more recently by the genetic structures; it also comes from evident left over parts within species, vestiges if you please, such as your tailbone and your little toes and the muscles that exist for wiggling your ears (whether or not you can use them, they are there) . . . .