Exodus

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[Bro. James]

The Cure for sin is still Jesus The Christ, The Son of the Living God; regardless of the circumstances.

We have redefined morality and become basically immoral--if it feels good, do it.

The alternate lifestyle population of Sodom and Gommorah was destroyed by fire and brimstone from God.

Homosexuality is still an abomination.

Even so, come Lord Jesus.

Bro. James

 

[Aaron]

Maybe they can focus on helping pedophiles. At least that's still somewhat repulsive to the world. But it won't be much longer.

Homosexuality can't be cured anymore than a coward can be made into a man of valor. It takes an irresistible work of grace in one's heart.

At the very least, the legal recourse for sodomy should be deportation.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

So ... is he now going to go to all those people who believe they are cured and say, "Sorry, you're not. Go back to being gay" ??

 

[preacher4truth]

Part of the problem with this group of individuals is that they think they need and deserve special treatment and that the church needs to adjust to help them, or just plain accept them as believers when they remain unrepentant.

I said it before that the only methodology for them is the preaching of the Gospel, and to repent -- you know, just like the rest of us who are believers. They don't need a special program, they need the Gospel and repentance, regeneration, renewal &c.

These do get saved through preaching -- Paul did nothing special for them as a 'side show'.

'...Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.' 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Part of the problem with this group of individuals is that they think they need and deserve special treatment and that the church needs to adjust to help them, or just plain accept them as believers when they remain unrepentant.

I said it before that the only methodology for them is the preaching of the Gospel, and to repent -- you know, just like the rest of us who are believers. They don't need a special program, they need the Gospel and repentance, regeneration, renewal &c.

These do get saved through preaching -- Paul did nothing special for them as a 'side show'.

'...Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.' 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

I believe classifying their treatment under the auspices of Exodus as a "side show" is open to criticism. Essentially, counseling that helps them work through whatever spiritual issues they have faced in their lives that has brought them to the point of practicing homosexual behavior has to be as valuable for them as is counseling for the addict or disordered gambler. I know -- I'm a counselor to both of the latter.

You seem to assume that Exodus did not preach the gospel to them. If you read through their treatment regimen online, you will see that is exactly what they did, as well as providing the personal one-on-one approach every sinner needs in resolving his/her particular life issues. If you discount the value of counseling, I must interject that counseling is valuable, no matter what the sin affliction might be.

 

[preacher4truth]

I believe classifying their treatment under the auspices of Exodus as a "side show" is open to criticism. Essentially, counseling that helps them work through whatever spiritual issues they have faced in their lives that has brought them to the point of practicing homosexual behavior has to be as valuable for them as is counseling for the addict or disordered gambler. I know -- I'm a counselor to both of the latter.

You seem to assume that Exodus did not preach the gospel to them. If you read through their treatment regimen online, you will see that is exactly what they did, as well as providing the personal one-on-one approach every sinner needs in resolving his/her particular life issues. If you discount the value of counseling, I must interject that counseling is valuable, no matter what the sin affliction might be.

Nope. I am not assuming they didn't preach the Gospel to them.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Nope. I am not assuming they didn't preach the Gospel to them.

OK. Sorry to jump to conclusions. I'm a world champion conclusion jumper. :thumbsup:

 

[preacher4truth]

OK. Sorry to jump to conclusions. I'm a world champion conclusion jumper. :thumbsup:

No problem at all, we all do it bro! :thumbs:

 

[church mouse guy]

I heard of Exodus in the mid 1980s. In my opinion, and I am an expert on nothing with opinions on everything, parachurch organizations are too often here and today and gone tomorrow. It is my prayer that denominations do the work of parachurch organizations. I believe that there is a balm in Gilead.