Featured Face Off Between The KJV And NIV

I came across a verse this evening at the Wednesday evening group that has quite a variety of differences between these two versions.


Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent. Acts 13:26 (AV 1873)


“Fellow children of Abraham and you God-fearing Gentiles, it is to us that this message of salvation has been sent. Acts 13:26 (NIV)

Rob

 

1 Tim. 6:10

KJV:For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

NIV: For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

 

The question is not what a translation says, but what the God-breathed original says.
The Greek is andres adelphoi. Adelphoi has the basic meaning of 'brothers' or 'brethren' but can certainly be translated 'siblings' or 'brothers and sisters' where the italics show that the words are not in the original.
But andres is a word that is almost invariably used to refer to the male sex only. Anthropoi would be the word to refer to 'men' as in 'human beings.' Therefore the use of andres adephoi shows that Paul was almost certainly addressing an all-male gathering.

 

That was an easy one!
The difference that caught my eye was inserting "Gentiles" [it's even capitalized!]
And at least one more difference - To whom was the word sent?

Rob

 

Yes. The plough boy cannot limit the vocabulary and education required to study the Scriptures.

"Have ye not read . . . ?"

 

The Greek word for Gentiles is ethnoi; it is not found in Acts 13:26.
Whether the word was sent to 'you' or to 'us' will depend on whether you follow the Byzantine Text (humin) or the Critical Text (hemin). Approx. 97% of the extant Greek manuscripts have humin, 'you,' including P45 which is dated 3rd Century.

 

I don't mind your opinion but NIV is a dynamic equivalent. The New American Standard is a literal translation.

 

The NA28 reads ὑμῖν. So "you" would be in line with the CT now. Perhaps you have an old version?

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***p45 carries a lot of weight in the CT. So they seem to have changed the reading

 

Even Mounce calls the NIV a dynamic equivalence translation. But he has a category called Natural language where he places ones like the NLT. But yeah, the NASB is formal, not literal.

"3. Functional (or dynamic) Equivalence. These translations argue that the purpose of translation is to convey the meaning of the original text into the target language. It may mean that a participle is translated as an indicative verb, or a few Greek words are passed over (such as conjunctions) to produce proper English style. This introduces an additional amount of interpretation and produces a more fluid, understandable translation. The NIV, CSB, and KJV fit into this camp."

*Note he places the KJV here as well.
Is the ESV Literal and the NIV Gender Neutral? | billmounce.com


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Thanks for that. Yes, my CT New Testament is the UBS 4th Edition, dated 1993, so it seems I m out of date It appears that the CT, BT and TR are united on this text now. Splendid!

 

I agree with yous assessment here, as there are indeed many who jave a HS diploma and cannot even read what it said, and also would not add a child the Kjv to start out with..
My assumption here is we are discussing persons who can read and understand either the Kjv/Niv...

 

Yes, but I am assuming here that the real decision is to choose between having better reading comprehension vrs more accuracy to the original texts!

 

My point is that the Lord has used those more difficult to comprehend versions thta I listed very well in this present time, and have you noticed

My point was that the Lord still has used formal versions such as Nasb/Esv a lot today, as many Baptists prefer those two versions for serious bible studies over the Niv!

 

Or the Nlt

 

Allow me to correct myself...my paper copy of UBS5 still reads "ἡμῖν". My digital copy of the NA28 reads "ὑμῖν" in two places in Acts 13:26...verse the one place of my UBS5. One is a misprint.....I am leaning to an issue with the digital copy.


*** it does seem to be a error in the digital. The apparatus indicates that the text should read as p74 and Sinaiticus

υμιν ��45 C E L 323. 945. 1175. 1241. 1505. 1739 �� lat sy bo ¦ txt ��74 ‏א‎ A B D Ψ 33. 81. 614 sin w syhmg sa mae


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