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Fake Former Nuns!!!!!

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by mioque, Sep 23, 2005.

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  1. mioque

    mioque New Member

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    In the 19th century there were a few women who made a living by claiming to be former nuns, publishing books and traveling the PC* lecture circuit, shocking (well o.k. tittelating) their audiances with lurid tales of lusty priests and sadistic mother superiors.
    Maria Monk, Rebecca Reed and Barbara Ubryk were the most famous, but there were others like Saint Francis Patrick (a.k.a. Frances Partridge).

    I had always assumed that by the 20th century this line of employment had basically dried up and had been replaced with women who claimed to have been the high priestresses of Satanic/Witchcraft cults.
    Well maybe not.

    Both the late Charlotte Wells and Mary Ann Collins, are possibly fake former nuns.
    http://www.speroforum.com/wiki/default.aspx/SperoWiki/MaryAnnCollins.html
    http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?idcategory=33&idSub=134&idArticle=1799
    http://www.angelfire.com/ms/seanie/forgeries/charlottewells.html

    *that's Protestant Christian not Politically Correct.
     
    #1 mioque, Sep 23, 2005
  2. D28guy

    D28guy New Member

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    mioque,

    I dont know anything about Charlotte Wells, but concerning Mary Ann Collins, if she were a fake why would she do it in this way?

    Meaning...explaining it this way:

    (from your link)

    What would be the point of that if she were faking it? If one were faking it they would want to be as much of an "insider" as possible, in order to have as much credibility as possible. If someone were faking it I would think the thing to do would be to go "the full 9 yards", and say something like...

    "I was a fully ordained Nun for 25 years. My ministry involved not only teaching but also much work done for the needy. I also had extensive first hand experience with, etc etc etc."

    As one who was born and raised Catholic I havent seen or read anything on her site that didnt square with my experiences. Of course I have'nt had all of the experiences she shared, but much I did encounter and she is "spot on" regarding all of those.

    Mike
     
    #2 D28guy, Sep 23, 2005
  3. mioque

    mioque New Member

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    D28guy
    The only reason to shy away from faking a complete insider with decades of experience is that such insiders know a lot more about how things work on the inside than people on the outside.
    Any small mistake a supposedly experienced fake nun is going to look very supicious to a real RCC insider and they will use such mistakes to make mincemeat of the fake's reputation.

    Charlotte Wells and (the almost certainly completely imaginary) Barbara Ubryk were supposedly were such veteran nuns. Their testimonies contain the sort of errors no real nun would ever have made.
    That's why it's much better to pretend to be something more modest, say a former novice from an undisclosed order, instead of something grandiose, a Carmelite with 3 decades of experience under her belt.

    It's the only reason I can think of and I think it's a good one.

    Ofcourse a worrying question remains.
    Since the early days of nunneries, a steady stream of disgruntled former nuns have left them.
    So why bother making up fake former nuns in the first place?
     
    #3 mioque, Sep 24, 2005
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