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False Religion of Arminianism

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by KenH, Jan 13, 2022.

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  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    If you going to say Arminianism is a false religion you are also saying Arminians are not saved.
     
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    God will save all of those He elected to save before the world began. He knows who every one of them is. I don't. But that gives no excuse to not spread the gospel of Christ and expose false teachings that claim that salvation is not of the LORD but that man plays a part, no matter how minor, by his own fallen, corrupt will, in salvation.
     
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    It is the Arminians who question their own salvation. Their flower is not the TULIP, it's the DAISY - "Days He loves me, and days He don't."
     
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    Awww someone was let out of the cage too soon
     
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    You can't call Arminianism a "false religion" without saying Arminians are not saved.
     
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    Do you think that a person has to have all of his theological ducks in a row, being free from any belief that is wrong, in order to be saved?
     
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    No. But you called Arminianism a false religion. By definition, a false religion is not Christian.
     
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    apparently you dont know what arminianism is. Hint its not anything other than calvinist
     
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    Get back in there Rev! :D
     
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    they are saved by the grace of God exactly same as Calvinists are, but misunderstand the salvation process
     
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    The theological differences between Arminianism and Calvinism are quite serious and substantial. Both sides are typically entrenched in their views, not willing to budge an inch.

    Having spent years in understanding the reasons for holding either viewpoint, I have come to certain conclusions:
    1. Many Christians are too lazy to do the homework necessary to understand the doctrines taught by Paul which the Apostle Peter says are 'hard to understand.'
    2. Many Christians are too young in the faith to grasp the deep things of God.
    3. Then there are those who vehemently deny and oppose the doctrines of grace. I group them in two categories: The first is sincere, yet unable to see past the irrationality of their arguments. The second hold positions of leadership, admired and followed by many, yet make it their 'calling' to refute the 'blasphemies' of Calvinism.

    It is this last group whose regeneration I question.

    Arminians and Calvinists have very different views as to the nature of the true God, the nature of man, and the nature of salvation. These discrepancies are so serious, they must be discussed and debated until Christ's Advent, if God is to be glorified.
     
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    I don't really know many Arminians. What I see mostly is a type of hybrid semi-Pelagian semi-Calvinism mix where you and you only of your own free will make the decision to get saved. But after that, you are saved and God keeps you no matter what, even against your will, with a surety and safety no Puritan would ever have imagined as long as you can remember back to the time of your decision or at least have it written down on a card in your Bible.
     
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    I am one of the oddball 4 point Classical Arminians. You are right. There are not many of us.
     
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    You hold to eternal security then?
     
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    Yes. Classical Arminianism is neutral on point 5 of Calvinism, so I don't even consider it a point of Arminianism.
     
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    Would say that it misunderstands salvation proper
     
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    Well a person can be legally saved by the grace of God and blood of Christ, but not yet spiritually saved and converted to the truth. So technically we cant say who isnt saved, but we can say that until one believes the Truth as its in Christ Jesus they arent converted. That said, the arminian gospel that God loves all mankind and Christ died for the same is a false Gospel not taught in scripture.
     
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    This is a false claim. It has never been proven that the truth of particular redemption disproves the general redemption.
     
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