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FBI’s Trump-Russia probe knocks White House on its heels

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  1. Crabtownboy

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    More body blows to Trump and his administration

    The White House was knocked on the defensive Monday ahead of its biggest week yet on Capitol Hill as F.B.I. Director James Comey confirmed the existence of an active investigation into Russia’s meddling in the presidential election, including whether there was any coordination with now-President Donald Trump’s team.

    In another blow to Trump, Comey and National Security Agency Director Adm. Mike Rogers also publicly refuted his unsubstantiated claims on Twitter that President Barack Obama had ordered a wiretap of Trump Tower phones. The leaders of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees had said last week that Trump’s allegations were untrue.

    “I have no information that supports those tweets, and we have looked carefully inside the FBI,” Comey said.

    The White House scrambled to contain the fallout, deploying two simultaneous war rooms, according to two people familiar with the arrangement, one in the Executive Office Building to monitor the Comey hearing and another satellite war room in the Senate offices to keep tabs on Gorsuch.

    But any hopes in the West Wing for a split-screen day were dashed with the revelation of an active probe into campaign associates of the president. At the White House, televisions in the press offices played the Comey hearing as it ran live on all the cable networks.

    “I have been authorized by the Department of Justice to confirm that the FBI, as part of our counter-intelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election,” Comey said, “And that includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government.”


    Comey said the probe will “include an assessment of whether any crimes were committed.”

    FBI’s Trump-Russia probe knocks White House on its heels
     
  2. Brent W

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    This election will go down as having the two most corrupt nominees in history.
     
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    White House Knocked Back on its Heels?

    There is nothing new being reported here, except that Comey is validating everything we already knew.

    Basically it's a big....

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  4. Crabtownboy

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    You may be right.

    Already some are saying that Trump and his administration are the most corrupt in our history. That is really saying a lot considering how corrupt some presidents have been. I really do not think anyone should be surprised at this considering his unethical history as a businessman.
     
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    Sorry friend, you are wrong. It now official that Trump lied ... and I am sure that will continue. He does have a history of being a chronic liar you know.
     
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    Yes, I know Trump is a liar. I must have posted it a thousand times during the election cycle. That's not news either. There's nothing new here.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    Except that is not what President Trump said. He said that Trump Towers were "tapped."

    And the FBI has admitted that one of the servers in Trump Towers was, in fact, investigated including examining the content of the hard drive and record of IP addresses contacted by that server.

    The result? Nothing. Nada. Zip.

    As to the claim that it was President Obama who tapped the server. Nobody in his right mind (which eliminates all Democrats) thinks it was Obama himself who did the investigation, but the FBI admits it was their investigation. And who does the Director of the FBI work for? Oh, yes, the Justice Department. And who does the head of the Justice Department work for? Oh yes. The President! And who was President when this investigation was ordered? Oh, yes. President Obama.
     
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    Hear Hear!
    In my opinion a draft dodger is not qualified to hold Office of President ..
    What man having an ounce of respect would even think to have our Troops forced to salute him a draft dodger?
     
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    Uh, he had a medical deferment. Bone spurs can be very, very painful. I know. I have one.
     
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    You cannot prove he was a draft dodger. He did receive a 4F rating on his last exam for heel spurs, but tell me Dr. Forgiven0777 where is the proof of your diagnosis and where are your diagnostics that he should not have been disqualified?

    If he did indeed have a physical disability at the time then there is no issue because he did not "dodge" the draft but was disqualified.

    HankD
     
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    Here's betting it didn't bother you a bit when Clinton was president.
     
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    I don't know what it would take to convince anyone Trump is a draft-dodger. He received five deferments. I do think it is a bit strange that he received a medical deferment during the same year he played football. If you can play football you can be in the military. Not all jobs in the Army require perfect feet. Heel spurs certainly would not have disqualified me of the job as a Radio-Teletype-CW man, in the signal corps when I was in the Army.

    From: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/donald-trump-draft-record.html?_r=0

    Back in 1968, at the age of 22, Donald J. Trump seemed the picture of health.

    He stood 6 feet 2 inches with an athletic build; had played football, tennis and squash; and was taking up golf. His medical history was unblemished, aside from a routine appendectomy when he was 10.

    But after he graduated from college in the spring of 1968, making him eligible to be drafted and sent to Vietnam, he received a diagnosis that would change his path: bone spurs in his heels.

    The diagnosis resulted in a coveted 1-Y medical deferment that fall, exempting him from military service as the United States was undertaking huge troop deployments to Southeast Asia, inducting about 300,000 men into the military that year.

    The deferment was one of five Mr. Trump received during Vietnam. The others were for education.
     
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    Clinton didn't dodge the draft. He was lucky or unlucky enough to get a high number and they never got to him.

    From: Bill Clinton - Wikipedia

    Clinton registered for the draft and received a high number (311), meaning that those whose birthdays had been drawn as numbers 1 to 310 would have to be drafted before him, making it unlikely that he would be drafted. (In fact, the highest number drafted was 195.)[23]
     
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    It still cannot be conclusively proven that he "dodged" the draft.

    Participation in sports can actually cause bone spurs in different parts of the body including the heels:
    What Causes Heel Spurs? | Heel That Pain

    HankD
     
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    There is NO evidence linking the Russians to the Trump campaign.
    This latest attack of browbeating FBI Director Comey and NSA
    Director Rodger's is just another attempt by Democrat's to sustain
    their delusional paranoia at everything Trump. They want to discredit
    him first, and hopefully shame him into resigning or get impeached.

    The Democrst's simply want their power back...plain and simple. That's
    why they're going through all this trouble.

    What's more: if the Russian's did influence the 2016 presidential election,
    then that would mean they had to have hacked and influenced all state,
    county and municipal elections as well, where hundreds of Republican's
    won those offices, from Republican Governors down to municipal and
    county electoral victories for Republican candidates and incumbents
    (mayor's, police chiefs, county sheriff, commissioners, council members,
    yes, I'm sure that includes a few dog catchers along the way, so forth).

    What I'd like to know is why would Comey begin an investigation of
    Mr. Trump when he wasn't even the nominee yet, according to Dems?

    Besides, the current investigation is just that: an investigation!

    And what does it mean to investigate someone? It means innocent
    until proven otherwise by the facts, and not hyperbole.

    Second, how and when did the classified files on General Flynn become
    public knowledge? At last count, only eight people had top secret access
    to Flynn's files. Who accessed those files? Who signed for them as required
    by federal law and NSA regulations? Why aren't those people subjected
    to polygraphs? How did the New York Times get possession of Flynn's files?
    Why aren't they being questioned and investigated?

    And how did General Flynn's files suddenly morph into the Trump-Russian saga?
     
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    Because theses deeds are acts of espionage and treason.

    Subterfuge.

    Whoever did these things will go down in history as traitors revealing our secrets.
    In my opinion of course.

    Not my opinion:
    Had I done this when I was in the military (Information and intelligence) handling classified documents,
    I might still not be able to see daylight (well maybe).


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    There is evidence linking Russians to people that worked for the Trump campaign, i.e. Paul Manafort and Michael Flynn.

    No, it wouldn't "have to mean they hacked all state, county, and municipal elections". Sheesh.

    I have no idea what this means or why you think it.

    The Empire would like to remind the Alderaan survivors that the real crime was the leaking of the Death Star plans.
     
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    You saith: "There is evidence linking Russians to people that worked for the Trump campaign, i.e. Paul Manafort and Michael Flynn."

    My reply: I need more facts. No comment right now.

    You saith: "No, it wouldn't "have to mean they hacked all state, county, and municipal elections". Sheesh.

    My reply: Rush Limbaugh brought it up and I happen to agree.

    You saith: "I have no idea what this means or why you think it."

    My reply: Liberal Dem's allege the FBI began it's investigation of candidate Trump
    as early as 03 July 2016, into the "connection" between Trump and Putin. Mr. trump
    wasn't even the official nominee until 19 July 2016. Sheesh!

    You saith: "The Empire would like to remind the Alderaan survivors that the real crime was the leaking of the Death Star plans.

    My reply: Being facetious, are we?



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