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Five Biblical Reasons why?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by SAMPLEWOW, Nov 28, 2005.

  1. jarhed

    jarhed New Member

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    Right you are. His command was to the eleven disciples, and my question was: was deadman one of the eleven ? [​IMG] </font>[/QUOTE]So if Jesus commanded the disciples to go, teach all nations, baptize, and teach them to observe all things He commanded them to do... what did He command them to do? Go, teach all nations, baptize, teach them to observe all things He commanded them to do... What does it matter if he was one of the 11 disciples? </font>[/QUOTE]I think there may be a problem with reading comprehension. Bottom line, Brother...If I don't want to win souls, and can rationalize my ungrateful, wicked attitude away, well...it doesn't really matter what you write, or what Jesus said...I AM NOT GOING SOULWINNING, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO. An ingrate convinced against his will is of the same opinion still...

    As for me and my house...we will be there preaching the Gospel to everyman...because I am debter both to the Jew and to the Greek. I owe them, because my account is paid in full!

    I enjoyed your posts on this thread!
     
  2. pinoybaptist

    pinoybaptist Active Member
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    Hello, jarhed.
    Now, I don't know if the 'brother' you addressed was James, or myself, but, let me say something.
    I am not against preaching Jesus, and him crucified.
    I AM against preaching anyone else but Jesus. However, like missions, it is the purpose that I am pointing to here.
    There is no such Biblical doctrine as winning souls to Christ. Christ has already won every soul He needs to win to Himself. If God commands us to win souls to Christ, then He would have to crucify His Son over and over again, and then resurrect Him each time, because that is what is needed for every soul to be won to Christ.
    Also, if there is anymore 'soul winning' that must be done, then Christ will have to perpetually go into the Holy of Holies in heaven bearing cup after cup of His own blood for every soul saved after Calvary, until the Father tells Him all that needs to be saved is saved and so He must come and fetch them and bring them home.
    But the Bible says He was offered up once for all, He already entered into the Holiest with His blood for the redemption of us all , He is resting and seated at the Father's hand already .
    So, the question is, if the Bible says all is finished, Christ is Lord, He shouted it is finished, then why should there be any doctrine as soul-winning ?
    The fact is no man wins souls to Christ, in the sense of eternal redemption. That is finished.
    What we do is gospel bearing, shouting the good news for all to whom this news is intended to hear, and they will hear, but not all, and it doesn't matter if others for whom the good news is intended does not hear, since the good news did not secure their salvation.
    We instruct, we exhort, we teach those who are already alive and hungry for the word.
    'Soul winning' is an erroneous, man-made doctrine.
     
  3. HankD

    HankD Well-Known Member
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    That doesn't stop us from bearing a one-on-one witness of these things bro PB.

    KJV 1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

    KJV 2 Corinthians 3:2 Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:

    Unless of course these Scripture do not apply to us.

    Trinitarian baptism. Why do we still do it?

    Or, should we still do it?

    HankD

    [ November 30, 2005, 09:55 AM: Message edited by: HankD ]
     
  4. TexasSky

    TexasSky Guest

    I don't know gang. After reading this thread, maybe it is better that some people don't spread their versions of the gospel.
     
  5. Brother Ian

    Brother Ian Active Member

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    Don't you want others to experience what you have received?
     
  6. TexasSky

    TexasSky Guest

    Piony,

    Can you give us a short statements of your belief? You show yourself as a baptist that claims Romans as your scripture, but you seem to disagree with the witnessing, and you don't believe that the New Testament is the inspired word of God.

    I'm curious about what you DO believe because at this point your beliefs are very, very, very different from any Baptist I've ever known in my life, and I've known a LOT of Baptists in my life.
     
  7. HankD

    HankD Well-Known Member
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    Texas,

    I believe that pinoy is a Primitive Baptist (according to his profile).

    Do Google on "Primitive Baptist" for more information.

    HankD
     
  8. SAMPLEWOW

    SAMPLEWOW New Member

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    [Wow! I didn't think that I would read this kind of stuff in this thread. I THINK YOUR RIGHT TexasSky. Originally posted by TexasSky:
    I don't know gang. After reading this thread, maybe it is better that some people don't spread their versions of the gospel. [/QUOTE]


    I was looking for Godly ideas not this sorry I asked. [​IMG] :confused: :(
     
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