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Foot washing is it for today???

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by tamborine lady, Feb 29, 2004.

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  1. tamborine lady

    tamborine lady Active Member

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    I must admit, I found this subject on the Baptist board and just couldn't resist starting it over here too!!!

    There are some scriptures that make me think we should do it at our churches once in a while. One of those is:
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    John 13-4 He riseth from supper, and laid aside his garments; and took a towel, and girded himself.
    5 After that he poureth water into a basin, and began to wash the disciples' feet, and to wipe them with the towel wherewith he was girded.
    6 Then cometh he to Simon Peter: and Peter saith unto him, Lord, dost thou wash my feet?
    7 Jesus answered and said unto him, What I do thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter.
    8 Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with me.
    9 Simon Peter saith unto him, Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head.
    10 Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all.
    11 For he knew who should betray him; therefore said he, Ye are not all clean.
    12 So after he had washed their feet, and had taken his garments, and was set down again, he said unto them, Know ye what I have done to you?
    13 Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.
    14 If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet.
    15 For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.
    16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.
    17 If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them.
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    Verse 17 -------happy are ye if ye do them!! :D [​IMG] [​IMG]

    So why don't more churches do this. Does anyone go to a church that has foot washing ceremonies??

    Working for Him,

    Tam,

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    #1 tamborine lady, Feb 29, 2004
  2. LaRae

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    The CC does foot washing on Holy Thursday (the Thursday before Easter).


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    #2 LaRae, Feb 29, 2004
  3. BobRyan

    BobRyan Well-Known Member

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    We do this once a quarter as the service that precedes the communion of the bread and the (new/fresh) wine.

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
    #3 BobRyan, Feb 29, 2004
  4. tamborine lady

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    I think it is a fantastic idea. Here are some other scriptures about it:

    Luke 7-37 And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment,
    38 And stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment.
    39 Now when the Pharisee which had bidden him saw it, he spake within himself, saying, This man, if he were a prophet, would have known who and what manner of woman this is that toucheth him: for she is a sinner.
    40 And Jesus answering said unto him, Simon, I have somewhat to say unto thee. And he saith, Master, say on.41 There was a certain creditor which had two debtors: the one owed five hundred pence, and the other fifty.
    42 And when they had nothing to pay, he frankly forgave them both. Tell me therefore, which of them will love him most?
    43 Simon answered and said, I suppose that he, to whom he forgave most. And he said unto him, Thou hast rightly judged.
    44 And he turned to the woman, and said unto Simon, Seest thou this woman? I entered into thine house, thou gavest me no water for my feet: but she hath washed my feet with tears, and wiped them with the hairs of her head.
    45 Thou gavest me no kiss: but this woman since the time I came in hath not ceased to kiss my feet.
    46 My head with oil thou didst not anoint: but this woman hath anointed my feet with ointment.
    47 Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.
    48 And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven.


    Jesus forgave that women for washing his feet with her tears and then anointing them with oil.

    Sounds like a winner to me!!

    Working for Him,

    Tam,


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    #4 tamborine lady, Mar 1, 2004
  5. gb93433

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    Everyday I have a foot washing ceremony in my shower. After a hard day's work I shower and my feet get washed along with the rest of my body.
     
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  6. atestring

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    If church had footwashings on a regular basis there would be churches in one accord and we saw in ACTS 2 what can happen when there is unity in a congregation
     
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  7. Dan Todd

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    Jesus certainly taught the disciples a lesson in humility when He washed their feet.

    Foot washing in Israel - during the time of Jesus - was for the following reasons:

    1. Roads were made of dirt.
    2. Footwear were usually some type of open sandal.
    3. Feet were dirty after even a short trip.

    Many (the more affluent) in Jesus day - has servants to do the foot washing!

    Just some of my thoughts!
     
    #7 Dan Todd, May 22, 2004
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    With the ravages of neuropathy and diabetes, I should not like to expose my feet in public. There are so many ways we can demonstrate humilty.

    It is another example of a practical custom outliving the times, and the demonstration falls short of its intention.

    I think Dan is bang on with this one.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
    #8 Jim1999, May 22, 2004
  9. John Gilmore

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    A foot washing rite is being considering for the new LCMS hymnal. It may be cut because there is some opposition. It is not a very common rite in the Lutheran tradition.
     
    #9 John Gilmore, May 22, 2004
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    Everyone in every century since the NT church could say that Christ's instruction about following this example of footwashing - is out of date.

    However this entire service was recorded for all Christians to be fully informed about the NT service that replaced the Passover service.

    So yes - the bread, the cup the footwashing service - it is all part of the Communion service and is all practiced today - at least in some denominations.

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
    #10 BobRyan, May 22, 2004
  11. Jude

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    Some in the Anglican Tradition practice footwashing, especially on Maundy Thursday. I, for one, DON'T. It's NOT a sacrament, it's NOT a part of western culture, it's frankly rather revolting. As stated above, their are other ways of showing humility and servanthood.
     
    #11 Jude, May 23, 2004
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    Yes. The most recent ceremony was held before a Maundy Thursday Seder that included communion. Traditionally, it's performed following the Lord's Supper. It oftens takes place as part of a larger love feast. Always, men and women segregate for footwashing in separate rooms.
     
    #12 Taufgesinnter, May 23, 2004
  13. donnA

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    In Bible times foot washing was common, it was not a Christian practice, but a practice of all, it would have been considered rude not to have the feet of visitors washed,it was done by the servant of the house. Something similar today to that custom in our culture(I'm sure in other countries and cultures they might offer something else) would be when we offer a visitor something to drink, a cup of coffee, lemonade, whatever. When Jesus washed the disciples feet He did it to demonstrate serving one another, He had to do it because it was the servants duty, and none of the disciples, as you can see, would do the roll of servant and wash anyones feet, including Jesus, they preferred to be served, rather then to serve. Jesus was giving us a lesson in being servants. In another verse(don't recall the reference) Jesus said He came to serve not to be served. While theres nothing wrong if a person chooses to wash feet, it is not required, nor commanded, but service is required, commanded,and demonstrated with these verses.
    I agree with Dan, we have to have a good understadning of the peoples and culture,a dn why it was needed, adn the fact, as I said, it was not a christian thing, but something everyone did, or were supose to, and insult to guests if you did not.
     
    #13 donnA, May 23, 2004
  14. Ben W

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    I think it is a great thing to do, yet if we make an ordinance of it, then it loses its effect, it should be a spontaneous thing that people do because they want to.

    The underlying message of footwashing is Humbleness, and I think that we could all do with a few more sermons on being humble.
     
    #14 Ben W, May 24, 2004
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