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Global warming making water supplies short

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by tinytim, Sep 19, 2008.

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  1. Gold Dragon

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    This feels like deja vu. The progression of questions was just like this thread and I will copy my response from there.

    The melting of the martian polar ice caps is thought to be due to large variations in the Martian axis and orbit around the sun which are accentuated because Mars has small moons.

    Axis variation would result in the opposite pole getting less sun. I believe most reports about the martian ice caps melting refer to the southern martian ice cap.

    Orbital variation would result in both ice caps getting less sun. I think the mention of the axis variation is also because of its contribution to the variation on the orbit of Mars.

     
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    Ironic it is occuring at the same time as Earth's...
     
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    If you are trying to suggest that global warming is due to increased solar irradiation, the NASA link above addresses that and I also addressed it in that previous thread.

    The following BBC article highlights a paper published in 2007 by the Proceedings of the Royal Society. The paper found that based on the sun's output, the global temperature should have declined in the last 20 years, which obviously did not happen.
     
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    And our scientists are never wrong?
     
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    Of course they can be wrong. Like them, I am always open to evidence to the contrary if you wish to provide it.
     
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    How is this for evidence?:
    Or this, the fact that God is in control of the Earth.. not humans.
    And the earth will not heat up until God heats it up!

    There are too many Christians that are turning to humanism...

    God is in control...

    Where is your faith?
     
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    Those verses are great evidence that God is in control of the Earth, which I agree. But that is terrible hermeneutics to see those verses as saying the earth is not heating up or can never heat up.

    A few other theological hypotheticals to consider:
    1) Just because God is in control does not mean man is not his agent of action. An example is the Assyrian and Babylonian empires as punishment for the Israelite and surrounding nations.
    2) Just because God can use man to destroy the earth doesn't mean he is currently using man to destroy the earth.
    3) If he was currently using man to destroy the earth, that does not mean that Christians should join in on the destruction.
     
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    I agree with all of this. I would just add that it is arrogant to think that man could destroy the earth.
     
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    Back in the 40s, the atomic bomb was created. There are now around 10,000 active warheads around the world. World War II was estimated to have caused 72 million deaths. Human land and water use has rapidly been destroying animal and plant habitats, accelerating the extinction rate of species. 2 commercial airplanes destroyed a large section of Manhattan island. There are currently almost 5000 in the air right now. Weapons of mass destruction, including biological and chemical, was one of the primary reasons cited to invade Iraq.

    If you think God cannot use man to destroy the earth and life as we know it on this planet, then I think you haven't been keeping up with current events.
     
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    And that is the Key isn't it?
     
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    For people who don't believe in God or his sovereignty, it isn't arrogant to believe that man can destroy the planet. It is a recognition of the current reality.

    You could say that they are arrogant to believe that God is not sovereign. But I would rather just call them lost in need of salvation.
     
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    For the purposes of any debate on the issue here the lost are irrelevant.
     
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    Then which Christians are you referring to that believes man can destroy the earth in the absence of God's control? I haven't seen any on this thread. Who are you trying to label as arrogant?
     
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    Anyone who thinks that man can destroy this earth.
     
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